Back in May, investment bank UBS and auto engineering firm Ricardo released a report entitled “Is Diesel set to boom in the US?” The document concluded that hybrid technology is America’s preferred propulsion, partly due to the vehicles’ “visible badge of green awareness amongst higher income purchasers.” BUT the authors predicted that diesel sales will outpace hybrids by 300K units by 2012 (1.5m diesels vs. 1.2m hybrids). Yesterday, The Wall Street Journal revealed that Porsche will forgo diesel power and produce a hybrid-engined Cayenne. Max Warburton, a UBS analyst in London, was offended: “They say diesel isn’t consistent with their brand, but a hybrid is? I can’t see that. If they don’t do diesel, it’s going to limit the growth of their company.” And that’s a bad thing?
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i so tired of “growth.”
or “growing” your company or “growing” your economy.
while every pot needs a chicken, not every garage needs a porsche. make ’em burn gas, make ’em sound like sex wishes it sounded like, and be done with it. they sell enough.
There’s more future in hybrids (and EV) for the US than in diesel — Porsche is playing their cards right.
Hybrids make for chunky cars.
For a schlepmobile hybrids are fine, but sportscars need to LOSE weight, not add the weight of an electric engine to their already bloated tallies.
Can you imagine a Carrera 4S rolling around at 3800lbs or so? ewwww….
Electric engines produce great low-end, on-demand torque. How does that not fit with Porsche’s image?
With concern over particulate pollution and greenhouse gases, I think Diesel will start to fade in light of more eco-friendly technologies. The diesel’s biggest advantages are simplicity and economy, but by the time you make all the effort to “clean up” the fuel itself, as well as to clean up the emissions, you have built yourself right back into the same box you just got out of and the “clean diesel” ultimately offers no real advantages over gas.
i so tired of “growth.”
or “growing” your company or “growing” your economy.
while every pot needs a chicken, not every garage needs a porsche. make ‘em burn gas, make ‘em sound like sex wishes it sounded like, and be done with it. they sell enough.
I couldn’t agree more. But we’re talking about Porsche and Wall Street here(where pretty much everyone already owns a Porsche, for that matter…)
Very Interesting view, especially the mention in the WSJ article that Germany was considering taxing vehicles according the amount of their emissions. That might be an idea worth considering for the US too. After all the more you pollute the more somebody has to clean up the air or water, not to speak of the health effects. Of course I was in favor of taxing fat too, but you know where that idea went.
Porsche is right on this, diesel engines just don’t mix with the name Porsche.
Megan Benoit:
July 27th, 2007 at 12:37 pm
Electric engines produce great low-end, on-demand torque. How does that not fit with Porsche’s image?
Megan, diesel engines produce great low-end, on-demand torque. They’ve also won at Le Mans. How does that not fit Porsche’s image?
The Wall Street Journal was a bit behind on this one. Porsche announced its intentions to build a hybrid Cayenne at the Frankfurt Auto Show in September 2005.
I question why Porsche has an SUV at all, when it arguably dilutes its brand message and is generally a poor seller. I’d be inclined to leave the SUV’s to VW (the equally unreliable Toureag) and Audi (the Q7).
But if they are going to insist on it, hybrid is the way to go. This car is designed largely for the US market, and the US is going hybrid, so it makes sense to stay ahead of the curve. I’m guessing that if diesel sales in the US are going to increase, that will largely be in the large pickup segment; the critical mass in the US is behind the hybrid for passenger cars or SUV’s/SAV’s. Lexus helps to benchmark this category, and Lexus, of course, has a hybrid.
Diesel produces plenty of torque and if they go with current German clean diesel trend then all of the barking about toxic fumes isn’t as relevant as people want to make it out to be. Is it flawless? No. But it’s definitely not your grandpa’s smoker anymore.
You’d think with what Audi has pulled off with diesels already, and the talks of a diesel R8 possibly hitting the line up, that Porsche wouldn’t be so quick to rule out diesel in favor of heavy hybrid technology.
Hybrid engines are great for basic people movers, but I’m missing the appeal for sportscars….other than knowing that sticking “hybrid” on the paint is rapidly becoming a license to print money…even if it’s not as hot as people think for anything other than small/mid passenger cars or cute utes.
Look no further than the LS Hybrid..talk about a con.