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I haven’t trusted a 60 min. auto report since the “sudden acceleration” fiasco they perpetrated. You think I care when they toss a geriatric journalist into a Tesla? Not in the least.
If you want a interesting mini-review of the car, look it up on Jay Leno’s Garage. He owns one and gives his (mostly positive) thoughts. Jay might be a little quick to praise just about anything in his vast collection (going by his word alone, every car built since 1903 has been nearly perfect in their respective roles), but he is a car nut and he gives some insight into the car you don’t normally get.
Ditto. 60 Minutes is light entertainment for the masses, not a source of insight into anything. Leno’s taste in cars is quirky, but at least he’s a genuine car guy who brings a fresh perspective to the table.
I’ll probably set the DVR just to see how far in the tank Stahl goes for Musk (and the EV concept in general).
I expect 60 minute’s normal skepticism to be thrown under the bus. After all, Musk is probably saving the planet, the car industry, and (most importantly) the world’s children.
With 60 Minutes the hyperbole is always intended.
I just love the “not a single drop of oil” claim. OK, it doesn’t use gasoline. But the power came from somewhere, and odds are pretty good that it came from a coal fire or a nuclear reaction.
It just kills me when these cheerleaders act like an electric car is “pollution-free.” In reality it’s just moving the pollution somewhere else.
It’s too bad we’re not allowed to build hydroelectric plants anymore — they really are pollution-free.
Even hydro has environmental impact — a dam and a reservoir, transmission lines, disruption of fish migrations. Hydro messes little with the general atmosphere, but the alteration of river flow can have far-reaching consequences. Want to minimize your carbon footprint? Make real ones by walking.
I’d want to see the whole thing before deciding whether it’s hyperbole. Trailers are always going to be hyperbole. That’s their job.
Let’s see now. Unintended acceleration. Exploding sidesaddle GM truck gas tanks (NBC I think). And now ‘reporting’ on the Tesla. Think I’ll take a pass on believing anything a lamestream media newshour show wants me to believe.
don1967 “60 Minutes is light entertainment for the masses”
Right. And mixed with heaps of slant and political bias. As chuckR said, “Think I’ll take a pass on believing anything a lamestream media newshour show wants me to believe.”
60 Minutes is entertainment, that is for sure. To say that they have a just a political bias is the least of it.
They might be “entertainment”, but many times, they ask questions of people that I would ask if I had the chance. Their “hyperbole” would have to work very hard to match that of GM’s “greenwashing” ad campaign…
That said, I’ll keep my jaundiced eye open for any bullshit, but keep in mind that the Tesla is such a paradigm shift that it has many people agog of its “cool” factor.
Well, the car will also use oil to lubricate the wheelbearings, gearbox etc..
Nonsense, it uses fairy dust and elf droppings to lubricate the chassis. Brake and hydraulic fluid is made from the tears of baby polar bears, crying over global warming.
” … the car will also use oil to lubricate the wheelbearings, gearbox etc.. ”
Hmmm, it depends how smart the folks at Tesla are. Excellent lubricants can also be derived from natural gas. In fact, several companies already have GTL (gas-to-liquid) production plants up an running and making lubricant base-stocks. You can read a little about GTL here:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa5322/is_/ai_n21339470
Biological based lubricants are also coming to market, such as this animal fat derived one:
http://www.getg.com/index.php
The lubricant field is changing rapidly enough that a monster textbook on the new technologies has been published by CRC:
“Synthetics, Mineral Oils, and Bio-Based Lubricants: Chemistry and Technology (Chemical Industries)” Only $166 at Amazon :).
http://www.amazon.com/Synthetics-Mineral-Oils-Bio-Based-Lubricants/dp/1574447238/ref=sr_11_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1223229280&sr=11-1
You can read a little about GTL here:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa5322/is_/ai_n21339470
Another thought: The Tesla is mainly made by Lotus in the UK. The UK is to a great extent powered by COAL. They should have based the Tesla Roadster on a Swedish car. Sweden is almost to 100% powered by nuclear- and hydropower. There isn’t a single large coal power plant in Sweden.
Talk about CO2 friendly!
I could see the next 4 seater Tesla beeing based on the 9-5 sportwagon. Lets fill up that big trunk with batteries!
And Robert, the site is very slow today, yieldmanager and admanager and google syndication seems to slow it down.
Ha. I knew Stahl would say that the engine kicks in after 40 miles to recharge the battery.
So Leslie Stahl gets a test ride?
It just kills me when these cheerleaders act like an electric car is “pollution-free.” In reality it’s just moving the pollution somewhere else.
Musk is also involved in the Solar City project. Martin Eberhard just recently wrote in his blog at http://teslafounders.com/ that his household is still a net generator of electricity even when he is charging his Roadster at home.
Look, the point of battery electrics is that you get zero tailpaipe emissions, which means that there is at least an opportunity to go zero emissions in the whole well-to-wheels cycle. Meaning your energy production is decoupled from consumption, and you can optimize both separately.
Full solar cycle is already doable, and judging by the amount of new thin-film solar cell manufacturers all aiming for a $1/watt prices, soon affordable as well.
So it doesn’t have any plastic interior panels? Isn’t plastic made from oil?
So it doesn’t have any plastic interior panels?
What, like cheap GM or chinese cars nowadays ? I sure hope not..
Isn’t plastic made from oil?
Not all of it, and quite a bit of it is recycled.
Dude, you eating baked beans is not an emissions free concept either, any human activity basically isnt.
This does not alter the basic idea that getting rid of tailpipe emissions or cars is a big step forward in improving your local air quality, and potentially will have a positive impact for our future on this planet as well.