That’s a non-offset crash test and therefore worthless. Almost any car or truck can perform well in a full-width crash, offset is what causes a vehicle to deform.
Their last stand should be the 2010 Chrysler Cordoba, a badge engineered Dodge Challenger. If they have the nerve to bring the Aspen wagon back, then they should bring something that was kind of cool back.
“That’s a non-offset crash test and therefore worthless. Almost any car or truck can perform well in a full-width crash, offset is what causes a vehicle to deform.”
So why didn’t Toyota do as well in the same test? Just an FYI, a full front non-offset barrier crash tests the vehicles ability to absorb a head on collision with another vehicle of the same size and weight”.
So in the video you are seeing a head-on crash between a Ram and another Ram or similar full size pickup.
It’s about time a big hulking truck lived up to the safety perception. I’d hazard a guess that most giant “safe” vehicles are nothing of the sort (even if you factor out rollovers).
@Windswords.
GARAK is right. A 100% overlap test is worthless in terms of real life front collison data.The 40% overlap conducted for example as part of the Euro NCAP is what counts.
Example: Chevrolet Aveo: US- NCAP- 4 stars,
Same vehicle:Euro-NCAP: 1-star!
It is a vast difference to concentrate all of the applied force across 100% of the front absorbion area of a vehicle versus just 40%!
And in the video as you stated we are NOT seeing a collision between a “RAM and a similiar size vehicle”. What we are seeing is a collision between a “Ram” and solid barrier. A collsion with another “Ram or similar mass vehicle” would have meant that the barrier would have been “deformable”.
Oh please, don’t get me started on the supposedly “superior” Euro NCAP. If they were so damn great we would be using it here. Better yet if they were so great the Euro cars from GM and Ford could come right over here without any rework. Except that they can’t.
@Windswords
Again your statements are without any foundation.
The rework as you stated on GM’s and Ford’s Euro Bodys sold in the US does not affect any structural BIW changes.
Well said, dadude53.
See also the NA IIHS offset frontal crash tests, which better ape the superior Euro NCAP. Wonder what the insurance companies know that windswords doesn’t? Oh, that’s right, the actual damage suffered by vehicles in everyday wrecks.
The frontal area of the Dodge Ram is enormous (over 80 inches wide). Spread a force over a large enough area, and yes, anything can take it. Yet in the IIHS tests, there was cabin intrusion.
That’s impressive, it looks like there is no deformity of the cabin.
I seem to recall the Tundra taking on much more damage. Anyone have a link?
Fully boxed frame, I believe?
That’s a non-offset crash test and therefore worthless. Almost any car or truck can perform well in a full-width crash, offset is what causes a vehicle to deform.
So Chrysler finally builds something worth buying moments before it bites the dust. Life is so tough sometimes
Their last stand should be the 2010 Chrysler Cordoba, a badge engineered Dodge Challenger. If they have the nerve to bring the Aspen wagon back, then they should bring something that was kind of cool back.
Impressive. Compare this result to some of the Chinese cars on YouTube. Yikes.
Garak:
“That’s a non-offset crash test and therefore worthless. Almost any car or truck can perform well in a full-width crash, offset is what causes a vehicle to deform.”
So why didn’t Toyota do as well in the same test? Just an FYI, a full front non-offset barrier crash tests the vehicles ability to absorb a head on collision with another vehicle of the same size and weight”.
So in the video you are seeing a head-on crash between a Ram and another Ram or similar full size pickup.
@nbpheights: Only if they bring it back with Corinthian Leather.
It’s about time a big hulking truck lived up to the safety perception. I’d hazard a guess that most giant “safe” vehicles are nothing of the sort (even if you factor out rollovers).
@Windswords.
GARAK is right. A 100% overlap test is worthless in terms of real life front collison data.The 40% overlap conducted for example as part of the Euro NCAP is what counts.
Example: Chevrolet Aveo: US- NCAP- 4 stars,
Same vehicle:Euro-NCAP: 1-star!
It is a vast difference to concentrate all of the applied force across 100% of the front absorbion area of a vehicle versus just 40%!
And in the video as you stated we are NOT seeing a collision between a “RAM and a similiar size vehicle”. What we are seeing is a collision between a “Ram” and solid barrier. A collsion with another “Ram or similar mass vehicle” would have meant that the barrier would have been “deformable”.
Oh please, don’t get me started on the supposedly “superior” Euro NCAP. If they were so damn great we would be using it here. Better yet if they were so great the Euro cars from GM and Ford could come right over here without any rework. Except that they can’t.
@Windswords
Again your statements are without any foundation.
The rework as you stated on GM’s and Ford’s Euro Bodys sold in the US does not affect any structural BIW changes.
Well said, dadude53.
See also the NA IIHS offset frontal crash tests, which better ape the superior Euro NCAP. Wonder what the insurance companies know that windswords doesn’t? Oh, that’s right, the actual damage suffered by vehicles in everyday wrecks.
The frontal area of the Dodge Ram is enormous (over 80 inches wide). Spread a force over a large enough area, and yes, anything can take it. Yet in the IIHS tests, there was cabin intrusion.