The Geo Metro. One Liter. Three Cylinders. A near-car that represented automotive nirvana for tree-huggers and penny pinchers throughout America. Except not anymore. Gas is down 60 percent from its zenith; the Metro has once again become as fashionable as OJ Simpson at a Jewish family reunion. I bought one today with only 95k miles on it for only $500. White. Base. Nothing special. But then again, what is these days? I’ll tell you what is. Toyota and Lexus SUVs. These things are getting bought with price premiums that would make a Kuwaiti Mercedes dealer blanch. Spied a 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited in Blue loaded up with 178,524 miles. It sold for $6800. A same year Lexus RX300 with, get this, 236,499 miles, sold for the same price. Why? Well a mint condition Toyota SUV is apparently worth its weight in lead (which is still expensive these days) if you’re willing to press the mileage ‘reset’ button. Meanwhile, a 2005 Toyota Celica GT with 100k miles sold for $7k. No one seemed to care. Young buyers are becoming an endangered species with the credit markets flipping the bird to the young and equity deprived. Also, it’s a complete bastard these days to get financing approved for any late model vehicle with over 80k.
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I think there’s something wrong with the “news” page… it’s cut off below the “Small Cars Are For…” article.
The import vehicles you mention are exempt from the credit crunch here. They will be in shipping containers headed overseas in the near future. Prices seen on these units at the auction are based on color, equipment and condition rather than mileage. I’m sure most odometers are converted from miles to kilometers upon their arrival with “creative/criminal” conversion tactics.
Sweet….I will be looking for new cars in a couple of months and was considering purchasing the Toyota Celica. I love it when the sheep flock the other direction!
Hmm, I have to think those SUV’s are not long for N. America roads. All the lots around me are loaded up with SUV’s of all makes, including Toyota/Lexus. Nobody I know is buying gas guzzlers because pump prices more than halved. They’re worried about having a job next year, let alone filling up a gas tank/making car payments.
$7k for 200k+ miles is ridiculous, I don’t care who made it.
Celebrate while you can. Lower fuel prices are a temporary phenomenon.
Logically, then, the bargains (in terms of low percentage of MSRP) are domestics, such as Ford 500/Taurus, Buick sedans, Cadillac DTS, Impala, Chrysler 300, Caravans, and Detroit’s SUVs. At a public auction last week there was a very nice base-level ’06 Pacifica with 93K. The owner wouldn’t accept the high bid of $7,500, but I bet he can’t get that as a trade-in. If they get even cheaper, I might figure it’s worth a gamble on Chrysler’s durability. A comparable Avalon could cost more than twice that.
Toyota has become the gold standard. My wife can forget about those RX350’s she thinks are so pretty. A well used RX can cost as much as a new Santa Fe.
My boss drives an SR5 2000 toyota 4runner 4wd with a salvage title and 246,000 miles on the clock. He still gets offers left and right for 5 to 7 thousand even after informing them of the flood title and ridiculously high mileage. Disgusting..
“I bought one today with only 95k miles on it for only $500.”
What do you plan to do with it? After all gas is cheap again. I can’t see you using it when there are so many better cars out there that still get decent mileage. Are you saving it in case gas goes over $3-4 a gallon?
Toyota SUVs are quite overvalued on the market for reasons that have little to do with their reliability or prowess (and I speak as a Toyota owner.)
I’ve seen 15 year old land cruisers sell for $8000 with almost 200k on the clock. A solid-axle 4runner or pickup (pre-85) is hard to find for under $3k unless it’s trashed. Funny thing is, I owned an 85 Toy 4×4 pickup (the holy grail of pickups, as it was the last year of the solid axle) and it wasn’t that great.
What can you say? It’s the “flavor of the month” and with fan sites building up nostalgia for them, you can’t blame the sellers for taking all that the market will bear.
Mitsubishi and Isuzu 4×4 SUVs (Montero and Trooper, respectively) are just about as good as the LC (minus the solid front axle) and can be found with ~150k miles on them for around $2k or sometimes less.
Just goes to show you that the market may always be right, but it’s not always smart.
Gas prices are down to $1.89 here (89 Octane)…numbers I haven’t seen since 2003.
I’m able to fill my car for $30 again.
But don’t think its gonna stay this way. Fuel is only low because of the credit crunch. People can’t easily buy new cars/SUV’s so demand is low. The Credit Crunch is wrapped in the mortgage crisis. More foreclosures and defaults are coming because of the unemployment growth.
The gas prices are gonna come back with a vengeance.
lets be smart and invest in our future infrastructure and alternative fuel vehicles now.
If you have the ability to sit on the Metro for a few years it is effectively a bet that pays off if/when gas shoots up again.
Similar Metros were going for $3-5k at the height of the small car insanity earlier this year.
Hmmm, might be time to sell the Land Crusher.
I have 130k on a ’97 Collectors Edition in the pearl tan color (strange color, but it looks good dirty). A good amount of scratches, but nothing that really stands out.
Any ideas how much I should ask? Blue Book ain’t gonna be enough by far.
Landcrusher: I’d put it up on an enthusiast’s forum like ih8mud.com. Otherwise around here an FZJ with 130k on it would probably get close to $10k, assuming of course you could find someone with the money to buy it. Certainly $5 or $6k should be acheivable, depending on your area.
I find that Craigslist is a good place to go to find out what people think their rides are worth.
If you want a domestic (or Korean) vehicle, buy slightly used (unless you get fire sale pricing). If you want a German or major Japanese (that is, Honda/Toyota/Nissan/Subaru/Mazda, not Mitsubishi/Isuzu/Suzuki) vehicle, buy new, because they cost so much used (IE, they hold their value).
Now, when you get to older vehicles in these price ranges, you have a problem. Those Toyota SUVs will probably be as reliabile as slightly newer domestic vehicles in the same category and price range. The market is probably correct in it’s pricing here.
As for the Celica versus those SUVs, the Celica probably cost half as much new as those SUVs did, so the difference (in age/mileage for the same price) is not that surprising.
I’ve said it for years now, and it’s more true than ever: Anyone who buys a personal transpo vehicle that gets less than 20 MPG and pays real money for it is asking for trouble. That goes double for a rig with 200k or more on the clock.
I’ve been steering people away from used Toyotas for years now unless they can get them for cheap, cheap defined by what other comparable makes and models go for.
A few years back, my bro had a roached-out little Corolla wagon that was ready to die, and was looking for a replacement wagon. He wanted another Toyota, but the only ones we could find were $5k and up and had more miles on them than what he was replacing. No sale. He ended up getting a Volvo 245 for $700.
Yeah, I know, sweet deals on Toyotas are out there sometimes. I found a ten dollar bill on the sidewalk once, too.
For you “Blue Highways” fans out there: replace the white shirt with an SUV and you’ve got the ghost dancing ritual… driving that behemoth will somehow bring back the old days of cheap gas for good, right?
The ‘reset’ button IS the overseas market. Most notably the Middle East and Central America.
“I bought one today with only 95k miles on it for only $500.”
“What do you plan to do with it?”
That’s simple. Either sell it for $2500 or get $500 down and $50 a week for 50 weeks. I have a lot 3 miles away from home and a phone number on the sign as bright as day.
It’s the same thing I’m going to do with the…
1992 Honda Prelude: $500, 155k needs a $200 paint job and some minor repairs.
1993 Lexus LS400: $500, 218k, salvage title, but very well maintained. This one I’ll be selling for $2k cash actually.
1996 Mercury Grand Marquis: $1200, will likely sell for either $2000 cash or do a $700 down 50/50 deal. It has all the options, leather and all, and is my favorite one of the bunch.
Three months ago I only did cash deals. These days the only deals that can keep the momentum going are the cheap ones… which is pretty much where the industry has headed since 3Q 2007.