| To: Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, HUMMER and Pontiac (including MD)
DESCRIPTION: GM Performance Parts is pleased to announce the availability of our new 2009 LS9 6.2L supercharged engine. This engine is the latest in the LS Series of crate engines from General Motors. It is the engine from the 2009 ZR-1 Corvette with over 630hp @ 6500 rpm & 600 lb-ft of torque @ 3800 rpm. EFFECTIVE DATE: Immediately ORDER INPUT: Available to all GM Dealers under normal order processing
GENERAL INFORMATION: § GM part number is 19201990. § GM Dealer price is $21,000.00, effective February 13, 2009. This price is a revision to that shown on the February 1, 2009, Electronic Price Media supplied to your Data Service Provider. This revised price of $21,000.00 will be properly reflected on the March 1, 2009, Electronic Price Media. § Refer to Page 76 of the 2009 GM Performance Parts Catalog for more details on this new crate engine package. § Engine output is established by the 2009 production vehicle. Torque and HP numbers may vary based on installation and vehicle packaging. § Supported by GM Performance Parts standard crate engine warranty of 24 months / 50,000 miles. § Crate engine package includes the engine and detailed requirements – installation instructions. § Additionally, a LS9 controller kit and a front accessory drive kit are planned for release later in 2009 to assist in vehicle installation. § Engine availability may be limited based on constraints with production. |
Good. I thought my GTI was feeling a little sluggish.
Maybe they can sell ’em with a gas mask as rip-roarin’ suicide machines.
DIY ZR-1 for current C5/C6 owners?
Other projects are possible such as the ultimate Pontiac G8, Yukatahoeburbelade from hell, etc.
Expect to find one of these under the hood of a Camaro at SEMA.
Have they published a horsepower and torque graph or just the peak numbers?
Additionally, a LS9 controller kit and a front accessory drive kit are planned for release later in 2009 to assist in vehicle installation.
Well, at least it’s not a “front-drive accessory kit.”
Ouch. Wouldn’t it be cheaper to buy an L92 or L76, an aftermarket blower, pay someone to upgrade the internals and tune it, blow it up once, rebuild it and still make more power?
Dear GM
Please send me a couple of hundred LS9 engines
I’m willing to sign off on your pension obligations.I figure the engines will be a more viable long term investment plan.
Thanks
Your former faithfull employee MIKEY
PS Please include the crates I can use them to construct my new home,under the bridge.
Ouch! 21k for the engine, and the controller isn’t available yet.
Wonder how much that will cost…
I always wanted a V8 Vega; now’s my chance!
Must agree with Richard Chen, this would pair well with the G8.
Cogratulations GM for identifying the demand. There’s no point hiding your light under a bushel.
Now, please make your RPG proof midget engine available online or from any of your parts counters for grassroot racers, rodders and kit builders.
Saw it at Sema in a Camaro
Now I can get one for my “Boss Hoss ” YAY!
Just gotta figure out away to make a controller out of old cpu’s
That would fit in my ’06 Silverado…wouldn’t it?
*starts praying*
This would work well in a 1996 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham or Buick Roadmaster Estate Wagon.
Few things beat smoking an expensive German or Italian car in a wagon with wood paneling.
This is one thing GM does right, it might not generate a lot of sales but it definitely helps the brand.
Unfortunately it looks like GM has stopped offering the ecotec crate engines. Other than the small and big blocks all they are offering is the Northstar and a junky V6 that must be used in the forklift industry.
I would definitely like to see the ecotec turbo offered, GM made a pretty nice hot rod using it.
http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/Parts
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/29/sema-2007-34-chevrolet-coupe-e85/
i personally can’t wait to shoehorn one into my 1991 miata
no_slushbox:
I don’t even see the HT3.4 listed anymore (that is the V6 you were refering to, right?). It was actually a replacement for the 2.8 V6 that came in the 1st gen S-series pickups in the 80’s and early 90’s. In any case, my donor 3.4 is coming from a 90’s Camaro :)
I’d love to drop that LS9 into an old school car, like maybe a 64 Impala
Only a fool would pay $21,000 for this engine. You can have a 600 horsepower engine for faaaaaaaar less $$$.
21K and it doesn’t come with the engine controller?
Just supercharge and add fuel injection to one of these it will still be much cheaper, and it will blow that LS9 out of the water.
AuricTech :
February 18th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Additionally, a LS9 controller kit and a front accessory drive kit are planned for release later in 2009 to assist in vehicle installation.
Well, at least it’s not a “front-drive accessory kit.”
Aw poop. And here I was just getting ready to order one…
Would all major manufacturers sell you an engine in a box?
Mmmm, Yummy!
Install this into a G8 with a proper manual transmission…..
It makes sense to sell the LS9 as a crate motor. The money’s already been invested in developing the engine and at $21K per motor, it’s probably profitable.
The fact that GM can sell the LS9 as a crate motor is at least partly attributable to the Corvette brand that RF thinks should be killed off.
I expect to see someone put the LS9 in a ’57 Chevy, plus every previous generation of Corvette.
no_slushbox read my mind. I would love this in a Roadmaster stationwagon.
like.a.kite :
Would all major manufacturers sell you an engine in a box?
Was reading something, somewhere recently that Nissan wasn’t selling a crate GT-R engine. In addition, the requirements for obtaining the engine as a service part are very stringent to keep any from falling “off the back of a truck”.
As for a LS9 G8…
Unless there are mounting or harness issues, start with a V6 model. A proper transmission could be an issue. Custom interior and controls added in and the package could be mid to low 50’s. Go whole hog with some AUS body panels (and hood), perhaps from a Club Sport and probably still under $60k.
And after all that, how much does it cost to get a LS3 to duplicate this? How much of those parts are already available to ease conversion? How much does it cost to import? Can a LHD (Middle East? EU?) equivalent model be found for parts or import? And when the #nsfw$ can I get a Sportwagon over here?
I expect to see someone put the LS9 in a ‘57 Chevy, plus every previous generation of Corvette.
I doubt it. An engine with limited support at that price is unsuitable for a 57 Chevy when there are more durable engines making more power for less money. Besides, this engine is a technical nightmare.
Technical nightmare? More like technically awesome!
Sorry, too easy :)
Technical nightmare? More like technically awesome!
Sorry, an engine with a supercharger slapped on top is nothing new. It’s been played before, many times for half a century. I seriously doubt the longevity of this engine as it a supercharged aluminum block. Cast iron is the optimal material out of which to build a supercharged engine. Aluminum isn’t as strong. You can have more power and more reliability for less money. This monstrosity is a waste of money.
Maxb49,
Mr. SR20DET would like to have a word with you. S would his friend, Mr. 4B11T.
helloooo, can we say cts-vultimate?
Maxb49
24 month warranty is none too shabby given the likely user profile (ahem).
For modern, well-tuned EFI engines, the reasons to stick to an iron-block for any power level below… say… 2000 hp… are kind of moot, at this point. A lot of great forced induction blocks of the last twenty years were aluminum… and strong as hell, at that.
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Nissan will no longer sell GT-R engines… they’re getting very uptight about outside tuners playing around with their stuff. Party-poopers. I still remember when you could buy a bored-out, forged and fully-built RB block for your Skyline capable of holding in excess of 1000 hp. Didn’t come with a 24-month warranty, though…
Found it: LS3 6.2L 430hp as seen in the HSV GTS for about $7500. LS7 7.0L 505hp as seen in the Z06 for about $15000.
Over a G8 GT the LS3 is about +70hp. The LS7 is about +145hp. Given the application specific modifications and parts required for a complete job, I’d only consider a LS7 if it could drop into a V6 model.
Given this pricing, $21k for the LS9 makes complete sense from the perspective of the horsepower increase.
I doubt it. An engine with limited support at that price is unsuitable for a 57 Chevy when there are more durable engines making more power for less money.
The LS9 is going to appeal to restomodders. At Barrett-Jackson this year there were older cars with LS7s. Just like the folks who think that any small car can be improved with a Hayabusa engine, there are plenty of folks who put modern engines in old Detroit iron.
I’m no engine maven, but 600+HP is no mean feat. Could you build a supercharged V8 with 600 HP? Probably. Would it be as fully engineered, as streetable and as reliable as a LS9 crate motor? I doubt it.
The LS9 is going to appeal to restomodders. At Barrett-Jackson this year there were older cars with LS7s. Just like the folks who think that any small car can be improved with a Hayabusa engine, there are plenty of folks who put modern engines in old Detroit iron.
There are several problems with this. The engine in question is $21,000 – closer to $23,000 with taxes included. People who want 600 horsepower will spend less money on a more dependable big block. Dollar for dollar the sticker price on a glorified Escalade engine can’t be justified. As for appealing to the restoration crowd, the time for that has long since passed.
I’m no engine maven, but 600+HP is no mean feat. Could you build a supercharged V8 with 600 HP? Probably. Would it be as fully engineered, as streetable and as reliable as a LS9 crate motor? I doubt it.
Here is an appeal to ignorance. “Fully engineered”? That sounds more like a sales pitch than anything meaningful. Anyone with sufficient experience around a garage, time, and motivation strong engines that are every bit – probably more – reliable as this engine. For less money.
Consider a Corvette ZR-1 engine from the last decade. Replacing that engine will run you over $10,000. For what? 425 horsepower? That’s a $4,000 small block chevrolet build, possibly less if you know where to look for parts. Problems arise when people don’t know what they’re doing. They think their cars run, as Dennis Miller once said, “on the screeching souls of the damned.” They don’t know anything about cars and wind up paying $21k on a Cadillac Escalade V8.
Depends on your purpose.
Here, you’re getting a 600+ hp engine that’s fully emissions-legal (when fitted with the proper exhaust) and comes with a 24-month warranty. It’s not hard to build your own high-horse monster, and old iron is popular with rodders because of that silly little inclusion in the law which effectively exempts them from paying for the smog they create, but for those looking for a turnkey solution to more power, this isn’t half bad.
Oh, and did I mention the warranty? Many crate engines in this power range cost around $5k less, but nobody offers a warranty this long on a crate motor.
, but for those looking for a turnkey solution to more power, this isn’t half bad.
Uh, $21,000, not half bad…maybe for someone earning their living in derivatives.
Oh, and did I mention the warranty? Many crate engines in this power range cost around $5k less, but nobody offers a warranty this long on a crate motor.
Paying $21k on an engine that could be replaced for $6k is an exercise in irrationality. Warranty or not.