I’m shocked, really shocked, where the heck was this level of effort back in 2002! I,ll take one V6 convertible with a six speed manual please. If these guys survive how many years do I have to wait for the bugs to be ironed out on all this new tech?(sigh).
I like the worn/warped brake rotor at 1:40 – now that’s some CGI realism!
And yeah, I can now go the rest of my life without hearing that rev segue. I’m sure it’s going to end up as somebody’s ringtone, but I’m not that much of a douche.
That “rev segue” causes me serious angst about the judgment of the people who approved this video. Is “that noise” supposed to create uncontainable excitement in anyone over 12 years old? Oh please. It’s not nice or funny. (But the sound of a toilet flushing, between the financial statement topics in the quarterly report video… now that’s funny.)
Mr. Chief Engineer there needs to work on his delivery too; it’s too awkward, nervously breathless, and rushed at times. And that still frame at the start… is he being lowered to the ground by an invisible rope? (If you’re going to put something like this video out, why not take an extra few minutes to make it nice? You’ve had three years of insane media build-up to this moment, after all.)
All those “great improvements” described here always make me wonder, “Okay, why didn’t you do that ten years ago?” Having driven a V6 Camaro recently, I went from skeptical to pleasantly surprised. It felt light on it’s feet and actually had some steering feel. Oh, and I’d prefer some smaller wheels please. I don’t like the feel of large flailing lumps of mass over Michigan’s crappy roads, and the small distance from pothole to broken rim.
Overall, I like it. Make mine a V-6. The new Camaro is a nice entry for the price, and welcome on the automotive scene (finally). At least it’s distinctive in this world of aero-blob-lookalikes, with that stretched-headlight gimmick that’s five years past its prime.
GM seems to be building some decent cars these days in spite of their management. Having two young kids, I’m not in the market for this type of car, but if I was, I would honestly consider this car.
Who among us doesn’t like a GM small-block?
I’m not sure this market will support this car in meaningful numbers though….
Detroit-X : That “rev segue” causes me serious angst about the judgment of the people who approved this video; is “that noise” supposed to create excitement in anyone over 12 years old?
Shamefully, I’ll admit to welcoming any revving of the GM 6.0 V8. I am over 12, yes, but not at heart.
I mean c’mon, it’s a Camaro. The whole car is silly. That’s the point of a Camaro.
Still thinking the V6 is a great value. Curious about how it sounds.
GM, like all other big companies, has a small remnant of smart, hard-working, highly-motivated individuals that want to turn out a great product and win in the marketplace. Every now and then we see glimpses of their work shine through (this video, Corvette, Malibu to a certain degree).
Unfortunately in the end they always lose out to the other 95-98% of the company that are blithering idiots.
The older I get the more I’m convinced that really good things can only come out of small companies or small, “skunk-works” groups within large companies. It’s the only way to keep the idiots out of the way.
I hope this car is a success. I hope GM can turn it around. I doubt either will happen.
Yeah….agreed its for sure an annoying noise.Yes the dude is not a trained actor IMHO that adds some credibility.
I retired before marketable cars came of the line.I did see a lot of the pilot and pre production stuff though.I had a 2nd gen and still own a 4th gen F body.I love my Firebird,but these new ones are in a class all thier own.
I don’t care how much somebody hates GM.I don’t care if your a dedicated import buyer.Even if you say “I’m never ever gonna buy GM as long as I live”.If you think of yourself as a car guy.Go and have a look at this car!
Photos don’t do it justice you gotta see one in the flesh.
I got passed by a new Camaro on the eastbound 401 in Oshawa. Red in colour—and a nice red, too– but I wasn’t sure what trim level it was as I was boxed in at the time and couldn’t chase it.
It’s not a bad looking car, but it’s still a little cartoonish in proportion (the Challenger is worse) and detail next to the much-cleaner Mustang.
It’s nice to know that some performance nerds are still alive and well at GM and the awkward delivery only adds to the authenticity.
Since the Camaro is based on the G8 I have no doubts that it will drive better than the Mustang or the Challenger. I love the look of this car and the only thing keeping me from getting in line for an SS is the questionable interior and my fears about the build quality. But if GM can get the quality right then I may forgive them for the interior.
I was fine with the rev segue at first but it did get annoying toward the end. It’s still an interesting video. I’m slightly more impressed with the car, except that ridiculously tiny trunk.
I like the fact that the wheel gap is the same if you get the 18, 19 or 20″ wheels. I’m not really a stickler for that but the stock rims on the new Challenger look ridiculous by comparison.
Looks promising GM; nice job. Looking forward to seeing one in the flesh.
Nine out of ten of us are still working, and I suspect six are making the same money (perhaps more when you include the bailout bonus cash). I think they’ll sell the hell out of these.
I’m looking forward to test driving the SS but I can’t believe that the 6 banger has 19 more hp than my 1996 Z-28, which I considered to be very fast back then. I hope the rumors are true about a 500 hp Z-28 being built next year.
Justin Berkowitz: Still thinking the V6 is a great value. Curious about how it sounds.
Me too. With 300hp from the V6, why would anyone need the V8? And I’d think the V6 would save you a little weight, too. And maybe better fuel mileage? Can’t wait to see one tested.
I looked at the Camaro at the Chicgo auto show. If they made the trunk opening any smaller, putting something in it would be like Goldfinger being sucked out the airplane window.
Also very plain interior. My 1988 Camaro was way more upscale.
Didn’t GM cancel the Camaro in 2002 because of lack of sales? Only 40K or so then. If they sell more than 40K of these in 2 years I’ll be very impressed.
On a side note, SIDI is an anagram of DISI, mazda’s Direct Injection Spark Ignition. And he doesn’t explain why the steering rack mounted forward means the car rides better. Other than that, a smartly managed ad campaign and GM has a chance to ride this thing like Nissan did with the Z back in 2001/02. Looking forward to the reviews!
He’s definitely not selling the interior here, which may be the Camaro’s Achilles’ heel.
Still, mechanically a fine effort. I especially like how they addressed the “wheel-well dilemma” (i.e. not punishing low-level trim buyers with an awkward-looking vehicle); bless them for that!
I hope circumstances reward the love and effort put into this car, but I fear that they may not.
Curious how moving the steering rack forward helps the 50/50 weight distribution. For a front engine/front transmission car this is counterintuitive. (The Camaro isn’t a rear transaxle car like the Corvette is it?)
I’m shocked, really shocked, where the heck was this level of effort back in 2002! I,ll take one V6 convertible with a six speed manual please. If these guys survive how many years do I have to wait for the bugs to be ironed out on all this new tech?(sigh).
I like the worn/warped brake rotor at 1:40 – now that’s some CGI realism!
And yeah, I can now go the rest of my life without hearing that rev segue. I’m sure it’s going to end up as somebody’s ringtone, but I’m not that much of a douche.
That “rev segue” causes me serious angst about the judgment of the people who approved this video. Is “that noise” supposed to create uncontainable excitement in anyone over 12 years old? Oh please. It’s not nice or funny. (But the sound of a toilet flushing, between the financial statement topics in the quarterly report video… now that’s funny.)
Mr. Chief Engineer there needs to work on his delivery too; it’s too awkward, nervously breathless, and rushed at times. And that still frame at the start… is he being lowered to the ground by an invisible rope? (If you’re going to put something like this video out, why not take an extra few minutes to make it nice? You’ve had three years of insane media build-up to this moment, after all.)
All those “great improvements” described here always make me wonder, “Okay, why didn’t you do that ten years ago?” Having driven a V6 Camaro recently, I went from skeptical to pleasantly surprised. It felt light on it’s feet and actually had some steering feel. Oh, and I’d prefer some smaller wheels please. I don’t like the feel of large flailing lumps of mass over Michigan’s crappy roads, and the small distance from pothole to broken rim.
Overall, I like it. Make mine a V-6. The new Camaro is a nice entry for the price, and welcome on the automotive scene (finally). At least it’s distinctive in this world of aero-blob-lookalikes, with that stretched-headlight gimmick that’s five years past its prime.
Rev Segue is my porn name.
GM seems to be building some decent cars these days in spite of their management. Having two young kids, I’m not in the market for this type of car, but if I was, I would honestly consider this car.
Who among us doesn’t like a GM small-block?
I’m not sure this market will support this car in meaningful numbers though….
-ted
Detroit-X : That “rev segue” causes me serious angst about the judgment of the people who approved this video; is “that noise” supposed to create excitement in anyone over 12 years old?
Shamefully, I’ll admit to welcoming any revving of the GM 6.0 V8. I am over 12, yes, but not at heart.
I mean c’mon, it’s a Camaro. The whole car is silly. That’s the point of a Camaro.
Still thinking the V6 is a great value. Curious about how it sounds.
GM, like all other big companies, has a small remnant of smart, hard-working, highly-motivated individuals that want to turn out a great product and win in the marketplace. Every now and then we see glimpses of their work shine through (this video, Corvette, Malibu to a certain degree).
Unfortunately in the end they always lose out to the other 95-98% of the company that are blithering idiots.
The older I get the more I’m convinced that really good things can only come out of small companies or small, “skunk-works” groups within large companies. It’s the only way to keep the idiots out of the way.
I hope this car is a success. I hope GM can turn it around. I doubt either will happen.
The V6 is very intriguing, even with only 18 inch wheels :)
Too Little [rrumm, rrrrarrr] Too Late.
–chuck
Yeah….agreed its for sure an annoying noise.Yes the dude is not a trained actor IMHO that adds some credibility.
I retired before marketable cars came of the line.I did see a lot of the pilot and pre production stuff though.I had a 2nd gen and still own a 4th gen F body.I love my Firebird,but these new ones are in a class all thier own.
I don’t care how much somebody hates GM.I don’t care if your a dedicated import buyer.Even if you say “I’m never ever gonna buy GM as long as I live”.If you think of yourself as a car guy.Go and have a look at this car!
Photos don’t do it justice you gotta see one in the flesh.
So, when will TTAC review the new Camaro?
I got passed by a new Camaro on the eastbound 401 in Oshawa. Red in colour—and a nice red, too– but I wasn’t sure what trim level it was as I was boxed in at the time and couldn’t chase it.
It’s not a bad looking car, but it’s still a little cartoonish in proportion (the Challenger is worse) and detail next to the much-cleaner Mustang.
It’s nice to know that some performance nerds are still alive and well at GM and the awkward delivery only adds to the authenticity.
Since the Camaro is based on the G8 I have no doubts that it will drive better than the Mustang or the Challenger. I love the look of this car and the only thing keeping me from getting in line for an SS is the questionable interior and my fears about the build quality. But if GM can get the quality right then I may forgive them for the interior.
I was fine with the rev segue at first but it did get annoying toward the end. It’s still an interesting video. I’m slightly more impressed with the car, except that ridiculously tiny trunk.
I like the fact that the wheel gap is the same if you get the 18, 19 or 20″ wheels. I’m not really a stickler for that but the stock rims on the new Challenger look ridiculous by comparison.
Looks promising GM; nice job. Looking forward to seeing one in the flesh.
This could be a seriously good performance car.
Nine out of ten of us are still working, and I suspect six are making the same money (perhaps more when you include the bailout bonus cash). I think they’ll sell the hell out of these.
frozenman +1
carguy+1
So long as the interior is solid, make mine a red V6 convertible with a proper six-speed manny.
Nice job, GM. (contingent on interior)
There they go again, covering up the engine with a giant chunk of ugly plastic.
Bronkowitz,
I with you man, I get the same feeling all the time.
<3
I’m looking forward to test driving the SS but I can’t believe that the 6 banger has 19 more hp than my 1996 Z-28, which I considered to be very fast back then. I hope the rumors are true about a 500 hp Z-28 being built next year.
Very nice.
Justin Berkowitz: Still thinking the V6 is a great value. Curious about how it sounds.
Me too. With 300hp from the V6, why would anyone need the V8? And I’d think the V6 would save you a little weight, too. And maybe better fuel mileage? Can’t wait to see one tested.
There ya go, I just read the convertible has been canceled. My excitement lasted a whole 6 hrs, back to the 2010 mustang site I guess.
Tune the exhaust? Bah. Two straight pipes with a crossover and two cherry bombs. That’ll do me.
Sweet ride…
I looked at the Camaro at the Chicgo auto show. If they made the trunk opening any smaller, putting something in it would be like Goldfinger being sucked out the airplane window.
Also very plain interior. My 1988 Camaro was way more upscale.
Didn’t GM cancel the Camaro in 2002 because of lack of sales? Only 40K or so then. If they sell more than 40K of these in 2 years I’ll be very impressed.
On a side note, SIDI is an anagram of DISI, mazda’s Direct Injection Spark Ignition. And he doesn’t explain why the steering rack mounted forward means the car rides better. Other than that, a smartly managed ad campaign and GM has a chance to ride this thing like Nissan did with the Z back in 2001/02. Looking forward to the reviews!
This guy it a tool. The car speaks for itself
He’s definitely not selling the interior here, which may be the Camaro’s Achilles’ heel.
Still, mechanically a fine effort. I especially like how they addressed the “wheel-well dilemma” (i.e. not punishing low-level trim buyers with an awkward-looking vehicle); bless them for that!
I hope circumstances reward the love and effort put into this car, but I fear that they may not.
That’s a hot looking car. Praise GM for keeping the production Camaro so close to the concept, let’s hope the engineering doesn’t fail the looks.
The V6 option is sweet deal…I’d take that with the RS package.
Curious how moving the steering rack forward helps the 50/50 weight distribution. For a front engine/front transmission car this is counterintuitive. (The Camaro isn’t a rear transaxle car like the Corvette is it?)