By being a populist tool. Regardless of political color, too many people want infotainment as opposed to actual news. Watch the BBC instead, as least for American news.
Well Glenn, you might believe in GM but nobody believes in you. How does this tool get airtime?
I haven’t watched the segment and couldn’t care less about Beck’s opinion on GM.
He shouldn’t be commenting on the subject he’s very little understanding about.
Other than that, Beck’s ratings are great.
He’s not nearly as “tool” as you think he is.
Glenn Beck is harmless. The only reason you would go out of your way to blast the guy is if you’re afraid that he’s actually starting to make sense to you.
What are you guys talking about…Fritz sounds good?
Puh-lease! I didn’t have my shitkicker cowboy boots on when I watched that video, so I had to shut it off to avoid the “Crapus Overflowus” that was about to deluge my house when Fritz said “I view the unions more as part of the solution than part of the problem”.
You fellas can’t ALL tell me you didn’t hear him say that, can you?
I’ve got my boots on now, so I’m ready for anything. Except for denial, that is. Did anybody hear if he said “harder, faster, deeper” again?
Wow. One of the things I’ve always appreciated about TTAC – both as a reader and a contributor – was the fact that the site tended to stay away from polarized, political opinion.
Until today.
If you were to listen to the Glenn Beck show – and by that I mean actually LISTEN, instead of forming your opinion from listening to other sources (MSNBC, etc.) you might find that Beck is NOT a tool, a Republican stooge, or a simpleton. In point of fact, he’s an insightful, passionate commentator, who constantly takes both the Democrats AND Republicans to task for taking our country down the road of progressivism, socialism, and fascism (in the dictionary sense).
Beck’s interview with Henderson was interesting, because he asked the questions most taxpayers are wondering. He’s obviously not a “car guy” – but because of that, he’s able to stop admiring the micro issues and look at the big picture. Frankly, I don’t give a rat’s ass about GM products – because they don’t appeal to me. But I do care about the American auto industry. Beck later got online at FoxNews.com and took questions from the online audience. Some of his replies were interesting. He talked about “rolling his eyes” when Henderson said that unions were part of the solution – not part of the problem. Keep in mind, both Beck’s father and grandfather were union workers – one was a shop foreman at Boeing. He’s not anti-union, anti-GM, or anti-auto industry. He is, however, anti-wasting taxpayers’ money. He’s also coming at this from a reasonable point of view.
Too often, Fanboys take the tack that “GM Sucks!” or “GM Rules – Ford Sucks!” – none of which adds anything to the discourse, or solves even one issue. Beck did a pretty fair job of even-handedly grilling Henderson, without coming off like some kind of Sam Donaldson attack dog or a Larry King sycophant. That’s a pretty good trick, given that he seems to like the GM products (specifically the hydrogen-powered SUV he drove for month). Still, he’s not shilling for them, in that he’s perfectly willing to take them to task for wasting money.
On the other hand, where (other than TTAC) have you heard ANYone else in the media talk about how the government (through CAFE standards, et all) played a huge part in GM, Ford, and Chrysler building crap nobody wants to buy?
While I haven’t had any use for GM since a painful experience owning a 1980 Chevy Citation, I believe it would be good for America to see a healthy, productive GM. Listen to Beck, and you’ll learn he agrees – but socialism, union giveaways, and government micromanagement is NOT the way to get there.
If you were to listen to the Glenn Beck show – and by that I mean actually LISTEN, instead of forming your opinion from listening to other sources (MSNBC, etc.) you might find that Beck is NOT a tool, a Republican stooge, or a simpleton. In point of fact, he’s an insightful, passionate commentator, ………….
I had to stop citing your comment so I could reply that Glenn Beck is an asshole, a pathetic piece of shit that SOMEHOW made it onto television dressed in journalist’s clothing.
Fox News is the most ridiculous approximation to “news” that I have ever seen and only by doing real research would one understand that this show has a “conservative” (white anglosaxan, western American, bigoted) slant in its presentations and that Rupert Murdoch should NOT be allowed to hold as many news medias as he does because he is in effect SHAPING the news.
I realized Glenn Beck was garbage when he was on CNN. Now, in order for him to get viewership he has to use shock comedy and various antics to get attention. CRYING ON THE NEWS WITH FAKE TEARS?
POURING GAS ON PEOPLE?
Playing the Soviet Union anthem while citing Obama as a communist?
He is so lucky I’m not the president because for the insults he spews, unrightfuly so, he would have had an UNFORTUNATE CAR ACCIDENT and ended up toe tagged.
Beck and Fox don’t represent journalism or “news” at all. They are nothing more than idiot box trash.
And MSNBC isn’t much better in terms of fairness and balance. MSNBC, especially Olbermann’s countdown is very high brow and very insightful but I never imagined I’d live to see news media organizations spending so much time attacking each other.
How long till Fox and MSNBC become political parties?
You can love Glenn Beck or hate him, it doesn’t really matter because he’s just a talking head. There are many more like him on Fox, CNN & MSNBC. That’s the state of 24 hour American news channels today. It is better to seek news from serious, non entertainment sources.
The real issue is Fritz. It sounds like he said all of the right things; the issue is whether he will succed where others have failed and do the right things to get GM where it needs to be.
No way to know now, we just have to sit back and wait(and no, I don’t think Government ownership and control will be helpful or good in this endeavor.)
I stopped taking Beck seriously when he asked America’s first Muslim Congressman if he was a member of Al-Qaeda.
People like Brad would be calling for the extermination of the UAW even if GM was profitable so I can’t take him very seriously either.
Brad, do you know how many socialists and greens whose feelings you hurt when you accuse an organization as unconditionally unrepentantly pro-capitalist as the Democratic Party of socialism? Especially as the Democrats continue to implement right-wing economic policies the Republicans never could, like welfare ‘reform’ and that wholesale privatization of the Treasury Department known as the bailout.
Glenn Beck is an entertainer who is politically conservative and has a talk show on a news network. Think Letterman, not Cronkite. Part of the entertainment is trying to figure out just how much of Glenn Beck’s insanity is real. Sort of like watching Mad Money not for financial news, but to see Jim Cramer’s manic reaction.
That wasn’t an amazing interview of Fritz Henderson. Didn’t mind Glenn Beck’s business relationship with GM since it was well disclosed, but thought vague familiarity with a few GM products didn’t add anything either. Not sure why Glenn and/or the research staff didn’t do enough preparation to at least get the correct GM brand names. Looks like he just winged it like the Pelosi press conference.
Americans are subjected to the worst media quality of any ‘modern’ nation. The quality of our media and their coverage (what they cover, how they cover it, and the time allocated on what they cover) is so atrocious, words fail to be able to capture the amount of failure.
Having said all of this, if there is one particular ‘anchor’ of any popular news program, whether on a network or the cable news programs, who is a raving lunatic, it is Glenn Beck.
I watch his show once in a while simply out of curiosity, and his level of insanity never fails to reveal itself. He is certifiably mad.
I am awaiting the moment where they find him in some precarious place and situation, wigging out, doing something harmful to himself or another.
Fox News gets more radical and nutso by the month. I anxiously await they’re next big hire.
Glenn Beck is a preacher, pure and simple. His crocodile tears shed over the decline of the USA into “socialism” have all of the passion of Jimmy Swaggert/Benny Hinn/Jim Bakker…
And no sincerity whatsoever; he needs viewers like preachers need donations. And if he doesn’t get them, Fox will find another nut-job that will.
The real enigma is Murdock – his Fox Network offers some pretty edgy entertainment that regularly walks the tightrope of good taste, and is even self-deprecating at times (Simpsons), tongue-in-cheek anti-Americanism (American Dad), and downright poor taste (Family Guy) — yet his news organizations take the super-conservative tack.
If you think about it, however, playing both sides of the fence is not only smart, but manipulative in the most sarcastic way.
Contribute to society’s decline, and decry it at the same time.
Oh, and make money all the time while the rabble bonk each other over the head with political baseball bats.
Glenn Beck is a preacher, pure and simple. His crocodile tears shed over the decline of the USA into “socialism” have all of the passion of Jimmy Swaggert/Benny Hinn/Jim Bakker…
And no sincerity whatsoever; he needs viewers like preachers need donations. And if he doesn’t get them, Fox will find another nut-job that will.
The real enigma is Murdock – his Fox Network offers some pretty edgy entertainment that regularly walks the tightrope of good taste, and is even self-deprecating at times (Simpsons), tongue-in-cheek anti-Americanism (American Dad), and downright poor taste (Family Guy) — yet his news organizations take the super-conservative tack.
If you think about it, however, playing both sides of the fence is not only smart, but manipulative in the most sarcastic way.
Contribute to society’s decline, and decry it at the same time.
Oh, and make money all the time while the rabble bonk each other over the head with political baseball bats.
Heh.
Wow. Post of the year. Honestly.
You succinctly and eloquently stated everything I’ve wanted to say as succinctly and eloquently – and the kicker is you are 100% correct.
I should use your quote as my signature on every forum I frequent.
The whole telvision business is such a preposterous thing. A quick Google search indicates that at most, Mr. O’Reily gets 4 million viewers. Let see, that is 1.3% of the poplulation of our nation. Of those 4 million how many are true believers? This puts some perspective on the bragging rights of media blow hards who want us to believe that their world is ours. If Mr Limbaugh gets 20 million listeners that is still only 6.6% of the USA poplulation.
Granted that there is a rotating attendance so to speak, so the total number of poeple exposed is greater. The point is it is quite likely these people think they exert far more influence than they do. They are far more inside a self re-enforcing echo chamber than they either admit to or actually believe.
My television has been cold and dark for years now. The mainstream TV culture is sick, commercialistic brainwashing. I refuse to participate.
commentary tangentially supports my view that buying into the “Liberal vs Conservative” story line is laying the cornerstone in the foundation upon which a person’s brainwashing is built.
commentary tangentially supports my view that buying into the “Liberal vs Conservative” story line is laying the cornerstone in the foundation upon which a person’s brainwashing is built.
It’s the prereq for building a political base. Traditionalist are generally the instigators of wedge issues (the line in the sand), tho everyone pretty much plays them subsequently.
But the real tragedy is that separate from this is still objective reality, and brushing aside the distractions, one side’s ideology is still backwards and destructive towards modern society.
Well Glenn, you might believe in GM but nobody believes in you. How does this tool get airtime?
How does this tool get airtime?
By being a populist tool. Regardless of political color, too many people want infotainment as opposed to actual news. Watch the BBC instead, as least for American news.
Beck sounds retarded. You couldn’t have asked for better from Henderson here, for the most part (I didn’t see the first part).
That America line.
BBC is great, especially if you hate America.
Well Glenn, you might believe in GM but nobody believes in you. How does this tool get airtime?
I haven’t watched the segment and couldn’t care less about Beck’s opinion on GM.
He shouldn’t be commenting on the subject he’s very little understanding about.
Other than that, Beck’s ratings are great.
He’s not nearly as “tool” as you think he is.
Beck is a blowhard moron, glad he’s on Faux News now. I was actually pretty impressed with Fritz though.
Told about Buick being cut over a phone call?
Beck could screw up a sunny day…
Fritz actually looked pretty good… he talked truth and made sense… makes you wonder if he had been the CEO over the last 9 years instead of Rick.
Wow. Beck didn’t burst into (manufactured) tears during this interview. Perhaps he doesn’t love this country as much as he says.
USA! USA! USA!
I love Glenn Beck’s sanity…..and I fear for it…..
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/223279/march-31-2009/the-10-31-project
Glenn Beck is a few pistons short of a working engine.
I bet he was more interesting and less of a toolbag when he was still drinking.
This isn’t Fox News hate, BTW. There are serious people on there like Neil Cavuto who are right wing, But Glenn Beck is just a know-nothing clown.
That was painful to watch, even before the end plea.
When Beck, Hannity, and Limbaugh start gushing about GM, I get nausea.
Glenn Beck is harmless. The only reason you would go out of your way to blast the guy is if you’re afraid that he’s actually starting to make sense to you.
If that makes any sense…
What are you guys talking about…Fritz sounds good?
Puh-lease! I didn’t have my shitkicker cowboy boots on when I watched that video, so I had to shut it off to avoid the “Crapus Overflowus” that was about to deluge my house when Fritz said “I view the unions more as part of the solution than part of the problem”.
You fellas can’t ALL tell me you didn’t hear him say that, can you?
I’ve got my boots on now, so I’m ready for anything. Except for denial, that is. Did anybody hear if he said “harder, faster, deeper” again?
Wow. One of the things I’ve always appreciated about TTAC – both as a reader and a contributor – was the fact that the site tended to stay away from polarized, political opinion.
Until today.
If you were to listen to the Glenn Beck show – and by that I mean actually LISTEN, instead of forming your opinion from listening to other sources (MSNBC, etc.) you might find that Beck is NOT a tool, a Republican stooge, or a simpleton. In point of fact, he’s an insightful, passionate commentator, who constantly takes both the Democrats AND Republicans to task for taking our country down the road of progressivism, socialism, and fascism (in the dictionary sense).
Beck’s interview with Henderson was interesting, because he asked the questions most taxpayers are wondering. He’s obviously not a “car guy” – but because of that, he’s able to stop admiring the micro issues and look at the big picture. Frankly, I don’t give a rat’s ass about GM products – because they don’t appeal to me. But I do care about the American auto industry. Beck later got online at FoxNews.com and took questions from the online audience. Some of his replies were interesting. He talked about “rolling his eyes” when Henderson said that unions were part of the solution – not part of the problem. Keep in mind, both Beck’s father and grandfather were union workers – one was a shop foreman at Boeing. He’s not anti-union, anti-GM, or anti-auto industry. He is, however, anti-wasting taxpayers’ money. He’s also coming at this from a reasonable point of view.
Too often, Fanboys take the tack that “GM Sucks!” or “GM Rules – Ford Sucks!” – none of which adds anything to the discourse, or solves even one issue. Beck did a pretty fair job of even-handedly grilling Henderson, without coming off like some kind of Sam Donaldson attack dog or a Larry King sycophant. That’s a pretty good trick, given that he seems to like the GM products (specifically the hydrogen-powered SUV he drove for month). Still, he’s not shilling for them, in that he’s perfectly willing to take them to task for wasting money.
On the other hand, where (other than TTAC) have you heard ANYone else in the media talk about how the government (through CAFE standards, et all) played a huge part in GM, Ford, and Chrysler building crap nobody wants to buy?
While I haven’t had any use for GM since a painful experience owning a 1980 Chevy Citation, I believe it would be good for America to see a healthy, productive GM. Listen to Beck, and you’ll learn he agrees – but socialism, union giveaways, and government micromanagement is NOT the way to get there.
Brad
If you were to listen to the Glenn Beck show – and by that I mean actually LISTEN, instead of forming your opinion from listening to other sources (MSNBC, etc.) you might find that Beck is NOT a tool, a Republican stooge, or a simpleton. In point of fact, he’s an insightful, passionate commentator, ………….
I had to stop citing your comment so I could reply that Glenn Beck is an asshole, a pathetic piece of shit that SOMEHOW made it onto television dressed in journalist’s clothing.
Fox News is the most ridiculous approximation to “news” that I have ever seen and only by doing real research would one understand that this show has a “conservative” (white anglosaxan, western American, bigoted) slant in its presentations and that Rupert Murdoch should NOT be allowed to hold as many news medias as he does because he is in effect SHAPING the news.
I realized Glenn Beck was garbage when he was on CNN. Now, in order for him to get viewership he has to use shock comedy and various antics to get attention. CRYING ON THE NEWS WITH FAKE TEARS?
POURING GAS ON PEOPLE?
Playing the Soviet Union anthem while citing Obama as a communist?
He is so lucky I’m not the president because for the insults he spews, unrightfuly so, he would have had an UNFORTUNATE CAR ACCIDENT and ended up toe tagged.
Beck and Fox don’t represent journalism or “news” at all. They are nothing more than idiot box trash.
And MSNBC isn’t much better in terms of fairness and balance. MSNBC, especially Olbermann’s countdown is very high brow and very insightful but I never imagined I’d live to see news media organizations spending so much time attacking each other.
How long till Fox and MSNBC become political parties?
You can love Glenn Beck or hate him, it doesn’t really matter because he’s just a talking head. There are many more like him on Fox, CNN & MSNBC. That’s the state of 24 hour American news channels today. It is better to seek news from serious, non entertainment sources.
The real issue is Fritz. It sounds like he said all of the right things; the issue is whether he will succed where others have failed and do the right things to get GM where it needs to be.
No way to know now, we just have to sit back and wait(and no, I don’t think Government ownership and control will be helpful or good in this endeavor.)
I stopped taking Beck seriously when he asked America’s first Muslim Congressman if he was a member of Al-Qaeda.
People like Brad would be calling for the extermination of the UAW even if GM was profitable so I can’t take him very seriously either.
Brad, do you know how many socialists and greens whose feelings you hurt when you accuse an organization as unconditionally unrepentantly pro-capitalist as the Democratic Party of socialism? Especially as the Democrats continue to implement right-wing economic policies the Republicans never could, like welfare ‘reform’ and that wholesale privatization of the Treasury Department known as the bailout.
painful
it seemed clear to me henderson didn’t want to be there neither is he giving the answers that people want to hear
Glenn Beck is an entertainer who is politically conservative and has a talk show on a news network. Think Letterman, not Cronkite. Part of the entertainment is trying to figure out just how much of Glenn Beck’s insanity is real. Sort of like watching Mad Money not for financial news, but to see Jim Cramer’s manic reaction.
That wasn’t an amazing interview of Fritz Henderson. Didn’t mind Glenn Beck’s business relationship with GM since it was well disclosed, but thought vague familiarity with a few GM products didn’t add anything either. Not sure why Glenn and/or the research staff didn’t do enough preparation to at least get the correct GM brand names. Looks like he just winged it like the Pelosi press conference.
I have to weigh in here.
I hate Fox, I hate CNN, and I hate MSNBC.
Americans are subjected to the worst media quality of any ‘modern’ nation. The quality of our media and their coverage (what they cover, how they cover it, and the time allocated on what they cover) is so atrocious, words fail to be able to capture the amount of failure.
Having said all of this, if there is one particular ‘anchor’ of any popular news program, whether on a network or the cable news programs, who is a raving lunatic, it is Glenn Beck.
I watch his show once in a while simply out of curiosity, and his level of insanity never fails to reveal itself. He is certifiably mad.
I am awaiting the moment where they find him in some precarious place and situation, wigging out, doing something harmful to himself or another.
Fox News gets more radical and nutso by the month. I anxiously await they’re next big hire.
Fritz is a stop gap leader like Gerald Ford. He won’t go down in infamy like Wagoner and Putz.
Glenn Beck is a preacher, pure and simple. His crocodile tears shed over the decline of the USA into “socialism” have all of the passion of Jimmy Swaggert/Benny Hinn/Jim Bakker…
And no sincerity whatsoever; he needs viewers like preachers need donations. And if he doesn’t get them, Fox will find another nut-job that will.
The real enigma is Murdock – his Fox Network offers some pretty edgy entertainment that regularly walks the tightrope of good taste, and is even self-deprecating at times (Simpsons), tongue-in-cheek anti-Americanism (American Dad), and downright poor taste (Family Guy) — yet his news organizations take the super-conservative tack.
If you think about it, however, playing both sides of the fence is not only smart, but manipulative in the most sarcastic way.
Contribute to society’s decline, and decry it at the same time.
Oh, and make money all the time while the rabble bonk each other over the head with political baseball bats.
Heh.
shaker :
May 16th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Glenn Beck is a preacher, pure and simple. His crocodile tears shed over the decline of the USA into “socialism” have all of the passion of Jimmy Swaggert/Benny Hinn/Jim Bakker…
And no sincerity whatsoever; he needs viewers like preachers need donations. And if he doesn’t get them, Fox will find another nut-job that will.
The real enigma is Murdock – his Fox Network offers some pretty edgy entertainment that regularly walks the tightrope of good taste, and is even self-deprecating at times (Simpsons), tongue-in-cheek anti-Americanism (American Dad), and downright poor taste (Family Guy) — yet his news organizations take the super-conservative tack.
If you think about it, however, playing both sides of the fence is not only smart, but manipulative in the most sarcastic way.
Contribute to society’s decline, and decry it at the same time.
Oh, and make money all the time while the rabble bonk each other over the head with political baseball bats.
Heh.
Wow. Post of the year. Honestly.
You succinctly and eloquently stated everything I’ve wanted to say as succinctly and eloquently – and the kicker is you are 100% correct.
I should use your quote as my signature on every forum I frequent.
The whole telvision business is such a preposterous thing. A quick Google search indicates that at most, Mr. O’Reily gets 4 million viewers. Let see, that is 1.3% of the poplulation of our nation. Of those 4 million how many are true believers? This puts some perspective on the bragging rights of media blow hards who want us to believe that their world is ours. If Mr Limbaugh gets 20 million listeners that is still only 6.6% of the USA poplulation.
Granted that there is a rotating attendance so to speak, so the total number of poeple exposed is greater. The point is it is quite likely these people think they exert far more influence than they do. They are far more inside a self re-enforcing echo chamber than they either admit to or actually believe.
My television has been cold and dark for years now. The mainstream TV culture is sick, commercialistic brainwashing. I refuse to participate.
Shaker’s
commentary tangentially supports my view that buying into the “Liberal vs Conservative” story line is laying the cornerstone in the foundation upon which a person’s brainwashing is built.
commentary tangentially supports my view that buying into the “Liberal vs Conservative” story line is laying the cornerstone in the foundation upon which a person’s brainwashing is built.
It’s the prereq for building a political base. Traditionalist are generally the instigators of wedge issues (the line in the sand), tho everyone pretty much plays them subsequently.
But the real tragedy is that separate from this is still objective reality, and brushing aside the distractions, one side’s ideology is still backwards and destructive towards modern society.