Yeah, I’m with John Williams, the headlamps are funky. What’s with the new trend of severely long headlamp assemblies that run so far up the hood/fender? Other than that, what I see looks awesome.
I too, was going to mock the outlandishly oversized rotors, which look bigger than the entire wheel assembly on my car. But I read elsewhere that they take the car from 100km/h to 0 in 32 meters…so mockery is substituted with awe. Does the car have motorised sunvisors that push your eyeballs back into your head after you hit the brakes that hard? I’m left with those absurd headlights – do they project an IMAX theatre-sized cone of light or not?
They mildly ripped off the Mitsubishi Eclipse, that’s what’s wrong. I used to love Ferrari’s for their looks, with the 360 and 550 being my personal faves. Now I love them despite their looks…
At first I thought they had put a load of black plastic in the air-ducts at the front but it turns out the material is flexible and helps with the high-speed aerodynamics of the car. It looks a little like a Lotus Evora to me.
Looks pretty cartoonish to me. Not in the sense that it’s obviously a render, but in the sense that the canopy looks huge compared to the rest of the car.. something is especially wrong in the way the glass on the side is shaped and proportioned. Just one of those things that you can’t quite shake, yet can’t quite put your finger on it until you look at it for 10-15 minutes on end.
elloh7 – I also noticed that the glass seems proportionally larger than on the 360/430. I think I like it, though. It gives the impression of being even more low-slung. I can’t fault Ferarri for bucking the trend of rising belt-lines. As Chevy creeps more and more into old-man territory what with the new Camaro’s belt hitched up somewhere around its nipples, this has a little bit of youthful hooliganism about it. As long as I can’t see its boxers….
This is a fine-looking automobile, everything an exotic car should be. From a standpoint of making sense, retractable headlight assemblies like those on my old RX7 would be much better, but this type of automobile is not strictly about making sense. And in reality, I would expect it to be seen only in well-lighted areas after dark anyway.
+1 to sardukar re the new Camaro’s high belt line; it’s reminiscent of the 69-73 Mustangs that had the belt lines almost up to one’s ears. (sitting in the car.) But I don’t see that on this car.
Ferraris have almost always been overwrought, overdone, and could use a stylist with a lot of restraint to really make them work. This is why there have been so few really beautiful Ferraris over the years. Yes, people all say they are beautiful, but they really aren’t. Exotic? yes. Expensive, certainly! Beautiful? Rarely. The Golden Age: the 250 California Spyder, 275 & 365 GTB/4s (and NART Spyder), the Dino 246, and the 250 LM fit the designer’s creed of “nothing left to take away”… but just about all the rest, even the 250 GTO, are cluttered with needless little bits of Italian excess. Vents, creases, cheesegraters, goofy lights, scoops, badges and bizarro glass & mirrors.
This one comes close, but still has a few too many of the latter categories.
What’s wrong? It’s the first decent looking Ferrari in about 20 years. But I’d still take a Gallardo over this.
What he said. The 430 looks boring, the 360 looked boring, the California is a joke, the 612 looks boring… THIS looks like a Ferrari. It has flashes of 250TR in it, with those wheel arches. I love it.
…but just about all the rest, even the 250 GTO, are cluttered with needless little bits of Italian excess. Vents, creases, cheesegraters, goofy lights, scoops, badges and bizarro glass & mirrors.
Chuck – what is the point of being Italian if you can’t sport a few medallions…?
A lot of things. Design wise it’s got problems. The bad creases on the headlights. The strange bump where the rear window meets the body. The asymmetrical front end. But the biggest problem is that there appears to be no room for an engine. The hood is too low for a front engine, and the back is too low for a mid-engine, unless it’s a 4 cylinder.
I must be the only one that sees nothing but the wrong proportions in aspect of the design.
For example:
Look at the door. Look at the top of the glass line to the bottom of the glass line. Now look from the bottom of the glass line to the ground.
The proportions make it look like you could drag your knuckles on the pavement.
I must be the only one that sees nothing but the wrong proportions in aspect of the design.
For example:
Look at the door. Look at the top of the glass line to the bottom of the glass line. Now look from the bottom of the glass line to the ground.
The proportions make it look like you could drag your knuckles on the pavement. And I could go on and on…
I must be the only one that sees nothing but the wrong proportions in aspect of the design.
For example:
Look at the door. Look at the top of the glass line to the bottom of the glass line. Now look from the bottom of the glass line to the ground.
The proportions make it look like you could drag your knuckles on the pavement. And I could go on and on…
I must be the only one that sees nothing but the wrong proportions in aspect of the design.
For example:
Look at the door. Look at the top of the glass line to the bottom of the glass line. Now look from the bottom of the glass line to the ground.
The proportions make it look like you could drag your knuckles on the pavement. And I could go on and on…
I must be the only one that sees nothing but the wrong proportions in aspect of the design.
For example:
Look at the door. Look at the top of the glass line to the bottom of the glass line. Now look from the bottom of the glass line to the ground.
The proportions make it look like you could drag your knuckles on the pavement. And I could go on and on…
I must be the only one that sees nothing but the wrong proportions in aspect of the design.
For example:
Look at the door. Look at the top of the glass line to the bottom of the glass line. Now look from the bottom of the glass line to the ground.
The proportions make it look like you could drag your knuckles on the pavement. And I could go on and on…
What’s wrong is that is totally rips off Honda’s HSC concept of a few years back. Yes, the details are different, but really, aren’t the details always what differ?
redshift – I think the intakes are behind the windows, built into the C-pillars. It looks to me like there is almost a 599-esque flying buttress there that is actually not a pass-through, but rather an intake. It’s more visible on the side-view.
But that raises an interesting point in my mind – how is the waste heat managed? The grilles at the tail end seem rather undersized, especially in light of the stories I have heard about 360 owners putting Challenge Stradale rear grilles on non-Challenge cars to get better cooling. Sadly I have no way of confirming any of those stories – has anybody else heard anything like that?
I also like the high greenhouse/low fenderline ratio, looks great and a better driving environment than the tanks with slit windows that have been turned out lately.
It it’s really going to look like that, nothing It would be the first handsome mid-engined Ferrari since the 355.
I see two things wrong:
1) No hot woman standing beside it
B) It’s not in my driveway
Get rid of the alien eyes and we’ll call it good.
It looks like it came out of a Ridge Racer game…
Yeah, I’m with John Williams, the headlamps are funky. What’s with the new trend of severely long headlamp assemblies that run so far up the hood/fender? Other than that, what I see looks awesome.
There is something seriously asymmetrical about the front grille.
Also the brakes appear to consist of size 14 sandals clamping onto a garbage can lid.
It’s been Bangle-ized.
Sorry, what was the question???
What’s wrong? It’s the first decent looking Ferrari in about 20 years. But I’d still take a Gallardo over this.
I too, was going to mock the outlandishly oversized rotors, which look bigger than the entire wheel assembly on my car. But I read elsewhere that they take the car from 100km/h to 0 in 32 meters…so mockery is substituted with awe. Does the car have motorised sunvisors that push your eyeballs back into your head after you hit the brakes that hard? I’m left with those absurd headlights – do they project an IMAX theatre-sized cone of light or not?
I’m surprised some on this thread don’t like the 360/430, which I believe to be a gorgeous car.
That said, the 360/430 doesn’t hold a candle to this glorious thing…
“Also the brakes appear to consist of size 14 sandals clamping onto a garbage can lid”.
Thats because they are not brakes but in-wheel electric motors…hey, you gotta use that expensive KERS system somewhere !! haha
This is a trick question: Nothing’s wrong. Looks great, as did the 360/430. It’s a lot more of a change than I was expecting.
Nothing from the perspective of displaying this in MoMA.
It looks awesome.
They mildly ripped off the Mitsubishi Eclipse, that’s what’s wrong. I used to love Ferrari’s for their looks, with the 360 and 550 being my personal faves. Now I love them despite their looks…
Why is Ferrari taking styling cues from Audi?
The name. Needs to be divisible by 10.
Headlights are the new tailfins.
At first I thought they had put a load of black plastic in the air-ducts at the front but it turns out the material is flexible and helps with the high-speed aerodynamics of the car. It looks a little like a Lotus Evora to me.
@doctorv8: Ferrari 355?
OK, fine. Divisible by 5 then. Don’t get me started on the 599. ;-)
What about the 355’s predecessor, the 348? Or the 512? The 456?
That rear totally screams “Enzo!” to me. I agree that the headlights are weird, but overall, I like it.
The only problem i can see is that it is not in my driveway right now.
Also Johnny Canada :
Headlights are the new tailfins.
HAHAHA, so so true!
Looks pretty cartoonish to me. Not in the sense that it’s obviously a render, but in the sense that the canopy looks huge compared to the rest of the car.. something is especially wrong in the way the glass on the side is shaped and proportioned. Just one of those things that you can’t quite shake, yet can’t quite put your finger on it until you look at it for 10-15 minutes on end.
elloh7 – I also noticed that the glass seems proportionally larger than on the 360/430. I think I like it, though. It gives the impression of being even more low-slung. I can’t fault Ferarri for bucking the trend of rising belt-lines. As Chevy creeps more and more into old-man territory what with the new Camaro’s belt hitched up somewhere around its nipples, this has a little bit of youthful hooliganism about it. As long as I can’t see its boxers….
A 60/40 split of metal to glass = coupe sporty.
A 50/50 split = MPV fertility symbol.
It is very weird seeing a near 50/50 split on a Ferrari. Next thing they’re going to tell us it has two seats in the back Lotus Evora style!!!
This is a fine-looking automobile, everything an exotic car should be. From a standpoint of making sense, retractable headlight assemblies like those on my old RX7 would be much better, but this type of automobile is not strictly about making sense. And in reality, I would expect it to be seen only in well-lighted areas after dark anyway.
+1 to sardukar re the new Camaro’s high belt line; it’s reminiscent of the 69-73 Mustangs that had the belt lines almost up to one’s ears. (sitting in the car.) But I don’t see that on this car.
-Somebody sneezed while holding down the Clone Stamp on the headlights?
-Bigger side greenhouse than a MkIV Jetta?
-Madison Welch is not navigating?
-Naming a Ferrari an, “Italia” is like going to Little Caesar’s and buying some “Pizza Pizza”?
Ferraris have almost always been overwrought, overdone, and could use a stylist with a lot of restraint to really make them work. This is why there have been so few really beautiful Ferraris over the years. Yes, people all say they are beautiful, but they really aren’t. Exotic? yes. Expensive, certainly! Beautiful? Rarely. The Golden Age: the 250 California Spyder, 275 & 365 GTB/4s (and NART Spyder), the Dino 246, and the 250 LM fit the designer’s creed of “nothing left to take away”… but just about all the rest, even the 250 GTO, are cluttered with needless little bits of Italian excess. Vents, creases, cheesegraters, goofy lights, scoops, badges and bizarro glass & mirrors.
This one comes close, but still has a few too many of the latter categories.
–chuck
Johann :
July 28th, 2009 at 8:46 am
What’s wrong? It’s the first decent looking Ferrari in about 20 years. But I’d still take a Gallardo over this.
What he said. The 430 looks boring, the 360 looked boring, the California is a joke, the 612 looks boring… THIS looks like a Ferrari. It has flashes of 250TR in it, with those wheel arches. I love it.
…but just about all the rest, even the 250 GTO, are cluttered with needless little bits of Italian excess. Vents, creases, cheesegraters, goofy lights, scoops, badges and bizarro glass & mirrors.
Chuck – what is the point of being Italian if you can’t sport a few medallions…?
Looks good to me, but I have to agree with Chuck. Always just a little too much excess frippery, and that’s always the first stuff that looks dated.
I like it. Can’t wait to see it in real life.
I already have a hot looking wife to go with it so make mine a deep cobalt blue.
Bunter
A lot of things. Design wise it’s got problems. The bad creases on the headlights. The strange bump where the rear window meets the body. The asymmetrical front end. But the biggest problem is that there appears to be no room for an engine. The hood is too low for a front engine, and the back is too low for a mid-engine, unless it’s a 4 cylinder.
Finally! A Ferrari that looks exotic/luscious enough to be worth the asking price. Haven’t seen one of those in the past decade or so.
The F430 and 360 are gonna tank even harder once this hits the street, and the front engine ones might rival the Ferrari 412 in badness. Hmm…
I must be the only one that sees nothing but the wrong proportions in aspect of the design.
For example:
Look at the door. Look at the top of the glass line to the bottom of the glass line. Now look from the bottom of the glass line to the ground.
The proportions make it look like you could drag your knuckles on the pavement.
And I could go on and on…
I must be the only one that sees nothing but the wrong proportions in aspect of the design.
For example:
Look at the door. Look at the top of the glass line to the bottom of the glass line. Now look from the bottom of the glass line to the ground.
The proportions make it look like you could drag your knuckles on the pavement. And I could go on and on…
The last decent Ferrari design was the 250 GTO.
I must be the only one that sees nothing but the wrong proportions in aspect of the design.
For example:
Look at the door. Look at the top of the glass line to the bottom of the glass line. Now look from the bottom of the glass line to the ground.
The proportions make it look like you could drag your knuckles on the pavement. And I could go on and on…
The last decent Ferrari design was the 250 GTO.
I must be the only one that sees nothing but the wrong proportions in aspect of the design.
For example:
Look at the door. Look at the top of the glass line to the bottom of the glass line. Now look from the bottom of the glass line to the ground.
The proportions make it look like you could drag your knuckles on the pavement. And I could go on and on…
The last decent Ferrari design was the 250 GTO.
I must be the only one that sees nothing but the wrong proportions in aspect of the design.
For example:
Look at the door. Look at the top of the glass line to the bottom of the glass line. Now look from the bottom of the glass line to the ground.
The proportions make it look like you could drag your knuckles on the pavement. And I could go on and on…
The last decent Ferrari design was the 250 GTO.
I must be the only one that sees nothing but the wrong proportions in aspect of the design.
For example:
Look at the door. Look at the top of the glass line to the bottom of the glass line. Now look from the bottom of the glass line to the ground.
The proportions make it look like you could drag your knuckles on the pavement. And I could go on and on…
The last decent Ferrari design was the 250 GTO.
if its mid-engined where are the air intakes on the rear shoulders? or in the sides?
Could they be developing an electric supercar?
It’s the lights. Besides that it is gorgeous.
What’s wrong is that is totally rips off Honda’s HSC concept of a few years back. Yes, the details are different, but really, aren’t the details always what differ?
redshift – I think the intakes are behind the windows, built into the C-pillars. It looks to me like there is almost a 599-esque flying buttress there that is actually not a pass-through, but rather an intake. It’s more visible on the side-view.
But that raises an interesting point in my mind – how is the waste heat managed? The grilles at the tail end seem rather undersized, especially in light of the stories I have heard about 360 owners putting Challenge Stradale rear grilles on non-Challenge cars to get better cooling. Sadly I have no way of confirming any of those stories – has anybody else heard anything like that?
With the wide mouth and swept eyes it looks like a beautiful catfish on steroids.
I also like the high greenhouse/low fenderline ratio, looks great and a better driving environment than the tanks with slit windows that have been turned out lately.
Overall a beautiful car.
Man..
Something is seriously wrong.. when I believe their cars are getting generic.
The styling.. is just, been there, done that.
They went from the 355 to the 360 Modena to the F430.. to this.
Im sorry.., this and the California.. are just missing the beat.