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I’m guessing that’s a map of proposed or existing red light cams in my fine city of Chicago?
well everyone loves to complain about politics in their hometown….so here’s my rant: elections in Chicago (and statewide in Illinois) is generally between an incumbent douchebag and a turd sandwich.
Everyone in Illinois complains about how $%##-iness of locoal politics but no one ever votes for real change. Suburbanites vote for the Republican-machine candidate and Chicagoans vote for the Democratic-machine candidate.
And for visitors unfamiliar with red-light cameras in Chicago and its suburbs…..remember to stop ***for at least three seconds*** BEFORE the white line during a right-turn on red…… (dunno if this applies to red light cameras around the country)
A rolling stop through a red light camera for a right turn on red triggers a violation.
It is, unfortunately, very incomplete.
http://www.photoenforced.com/chicago.html
@no_slushbox:
Your link appears to go to the same pic posted by RF.
I am surprised that there are not more of them in Chicago. We used to have two or three cars “sneak” through the red lights before… now we have people slamming on the brakes while the light is green because they think they MIGHT not make it through. It’s just a revenue generating machine… plain and simple.
TZ:
Yeah, I think it’s the same map, I posted it so that you can zoom in and see how incomplete it is.
A lot of those suburbs have cameras at every major intersection, but if you zoom in it will only show like one camera for the whole town.
So that’s one of the things wrong with the picture, it unfortunately under reports how many cameras there actually are.
A map of where one can find various bits of Jimmy Hoffa?
A map showing where Dave Kingman’s tape measure homers have landed?
After all, “Kong” had power to all fields.
It might be the murders that have happened this year in Chicago. Oh wait, it looks like too little amount.
yup King Daley is really proud of his redlight cameras. He even put ads on the CTA buses claiming this is “saving” lives…Chicago politics is so messed up
i thought it might have been the number of gm dealers in the chicago area at first.
I assumed it was a map of GM dealers.. Go figure…
no_slushbox :
Got it. Someone is making a boatload of money to monitor, process and bill all of those locations.
I was nailed for $100 in April at Clark and Sheridan. It was pretty clear that I squeaked by just after the light turned red. They take both still and video images, and the quality makes them pretty hard to argue against.
All the places Rod Blagojevich accepted bribes?
You may look at it as red light cameras.
I look at this as the late arrival of George Orwell’s 1984.
You see, this is BIG BROTHER catching up.
It’s the slow Chinese water drip wearing out the people’s desire to be free.
The constant battle wears us down so we eventually quit the fight.
Soon these cameras will be improved and their uses expanded.
Soon, they will be used to catch cell phone users.
Soon they will be used to catch the recently outlawed coffee drinkers.
The times between lights will be used to catch speeders.
All of this SOUNDS good to you, IF the LAW is the LAW.
But it’s about money.
IF they really wanted to catch and punish those responsible for crimes in this country they could.
And once caught, they would be punished.
An effort would be made to STOP the repeated crimes.
But Hell no. The repeat bastards are out on the street immediately to do it all again.
They don’t need to worry about having insurance.
They don’t need to worry about having a valid license.
That’s only for those who can pay the fines.
Us.
This is all about money and control.
Chicago loves them red light cameras.
@ Paulie – Here in Texas, the State maintains a data base as to whether or not a vehicle is currently insured.
So, if you let your car insurance lapse and are photographed blowing through an intersection with a red light camera – there is a good chance that two tickets will be issued, not one.
Cell phone and credit card usage can used as admissible evidence to place you near the scene of crime.
Gas station and store parking lot cameras are also used to place a person’s vehicle as being in the vicinity of a crime.
OldandSlow,
All of those are reasons why when the police are investigating a crime, the only appropriate response to their questions is:
“I’ll be happy to answer your questions with my attorney present. Here’s my attorney’s name and phone number. Please call him to arrange the interview. Have a nice day, officer.”
You may forget which route you took that day and when your car shows up on a security camera tape after you’ve said (thinking it was the truth) that you weren’t near the store that was robbed, you’ve just been “caught in a lie”. Add the fact that your car is the same color as the getaway vehicle and that you vaguely resemble the driver (middle aged white guy with brown hair) and that’s enough circumstantial evidence, along with the fact of your “lie”, for a prosecutor to get an indictment.
Remember folks, the police are not there to serve and protect you. They serve their bosses and their unions, not the public. They protect other police officers, not the public. They are the sharp end of the nanny state’s spear. They should be considered as corrupt and untrustworthy as all the other public employees who are living off of our taxes and telling us what to do.
Sorry if I’m ranting, but I was just reading about botched SWAT raids and when a public employee says the following, it’s clear that there’s something seriously wrong.
Baltimore’s ABC affiliate reported on another mistaken raid, and noted that city officials generally make no effort to compensate homeowners when police trash their houses in search of contraband that doesn’t turn up. “If you’re searching for drugs or unlawful firearms, these things are not left out in plain view on the living room table,” City Solicitor George Nilson explained. “You often will have to do some damage to the premises and…the police department doesn’t and we don’t pay for those kinds of damages.”
I sentSolicitor Nilson an email, identifying myself as a journalist and asking under what law the city of Baltimore is immune from civil or criminal action for destroying private property or trespass to chattel (depriving someone of the use of their property), and how Baltimore’s policies do not violate the takings clause of the Fifth Amendment.
As expected, a public employee decided that answering questions from the public is not part of his or her job description.
RS:
Your remarks reassure many of us we are not ‘lone rangers’. Thank you.
This map shows the locations of Mafia(Outfit) hits between 1918 and 1997.
But let’s be serious. Major Daley needs the money. He has to pay overtime to all his goombas. Last week he fired over 200 Union employees, yet it was also revealed that a Mick 911 telephone operator, in the first three months of this year made over $24,000, in OVERTIME! Way to go Mr. Dick Daley.
OldandSlow
OK.
Great.
High Tech is helping us to catch thieves.
But, as my statement stands…it what you do AFTER you catch them.
A few years back, in traffic court for speeding 20 MPH above the limit on a stretch of cornfield blacktop, the majority of orange suited (still in jail at the time), uninsured/unlicensed drivers with multiple offenses WALKED out with slaps upon their hands.
After promising never to do it again.
Again.
Many unlicensed drivers even DROVE to the hearing!
Me?
The guy in the room who can pay his fine?
I got slapped with a $100 fine.
Stunned, I asked why, when nobody else had.
In fact I explained, I drive almost 40K a year in sales and have never had a ticket or accident in 20 years.
The damn judge, without muttering a word, looked at me, hit the hammer down,and increased it by another $30.
OK.
Understood.
But never accepted.
So, in my opinion, the old sayings has changed:
If you can’t pay the fine…do the crime.
Holy Shit! I haven’t been to the city in a while & only thought there were maybe 20 camera in the metro area.
Time to install that James Bond gadget “flip to another license plate”.
2 weeks ago I was driving to work and slammed on the brakes to NOT go through the yellow. I then timed the oncoming light as I waited at the red.
I did this for two lights.
On my wrist/stopwatch I came up with 2.84 on first timing attempt, and 2.91 seconds on the second light. I absolutely did NOT stop it early.
That is a ridiculously short yellow-> red change on a main road that people hit 40+mph on.
paulie :
You may look at it as red light cameras.
I look at this as the late arrival of George Orwell’s 1984.
You see, this is BIG BROTHER catching up.
It’s the slow Chinese water drip wearing out the people’s desire to be free.
The constant battle wears us down so we eventually quit the fight.
Or to put it another way – remembering a poem I read on a bathroom wall back in high school:
“You will obey me while I lead you,
And eat the garbage that I feed you,
Until the day that we don’t need you,
Don’t call for help – no one will heed you,
Your mind is totally controlled,
It has been stuffed into my mold,
And you will do as you are told,
Until the rights to you are sold…”
1984 was one of my all-time favorite books. It’s scary to see how life begins to imitate art…
It’s all of the GM dealerships in the Chicago area.