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That Ferrari looks very scary fast. I like supercars. The GT3 being one of my favorites. Its fast, responsive but seems forgiving enough. Looks good too. The others have something or another I think is inappropriate for my driving too often. The GT3 and probably Cayman work well for me.
Gasp! That pic made the day. Lust…..
I was just looking for video clips of this car…I need to hear it sing
I also like tall young super models.
What’s not to like?
Twotone
twotone, by the way, both are untouchable
you’d probably be surprised how touchable they both “probably” are, supermodels more so.
This car almost makes up for the post on the (cough) caliber. Not quite, but almost. This car is beautiful, but the caliber (cough) is that bad.
It’s a complicated thing to me:
– Many of us are getting jaded to supercars, but will no doubt look on this as a golden era.
– I love these cars, but am frustrated by what they denote: the tremendous wealth redistribution that has taken place since the ’60s. We get to look at the royal horses, but most can never afford them. Yes, there were Ferraris in the ’60s, but I doubt so many generally unattainable cars have been produced since the ’20s..
– Many of them are poorly designed kit, but a few, and I have no doubt that the 458 is one, represent a driving experience I doubt I can even imagine. The level of refinement has escalated from the 355 to the 360 and 430 to the point where I probably wouldn’t even be able to appreciate how absolutely good the 458 is.
– The capabilities of these cars are at superbike levels, where I doubt 99% of drivers can even get them close to 8/10s safely and appropriately on a track. People want more horsepower, but I think most don’t even realize how hard it is to properly handle 400.
– I have realized that even if I did own a supercar, I wouldn’t be able to drive it around my town (Oakland), due to the driveways, potholes, and speed bumps. My 370Z is actually much more accessible, and much less to worry about.
– Flappy paddles are no doubt the right thing for ultra performance, but they just don’t excite me the way a manual does. I almost think I wouldn’t want to own half of the modern supercars for just that reason. The connection is more important to me than ultimate performance.
Because of all of the above, my dream car is a Caterham CSR. Supercar killer up to 100, rascal to live with, still drivable on city streets, and just overpriced enough to be procurable, with a driving experience all its own, it is the car for me.
Love that Ferrari though. Can’t wait to see one in the flesh. And the Reventon vert is all that the Lambo version of a supercar should be. Good times…
A stick with a clutch has soul. paddles don’t. And a few tenths of a second would add nothing to my happiness quotient–would actually detract–if it came at the cost of losing a clutch.
And agree completely with imag’s para 1
imag,
Regarding inaccessiable performance, companies seem to be congnizant of this offer multiple levels of stability/traction control etc. so mediocre drivers can feel like superstars while advanced drivers can still turn everything off. It’s like a video game, and video games are fun.
Anyone else think the triple exhaust is a odd choice? I love the looks of this car but I’m wondering what the exhaust looks like under the car. Do dual exhausts combine into one muffler and then split to three tips?
It bothers me when cars have non-functional accessories (my 09 STI has quad exhaust tips comming from a 4cyl for example! wtf?) but on a car with this level of proformance I wonder if the triple tips are functional.
@ imag
Heh. As a fellow Oaktown resident, I know exactly what you mean. Looks like they are finally starting to pave stuff around here though.
Sonic EJ — I was thinking about this, and I’m convinced that the outer two are connected to the manifolds, and the middle one is either pure decoration or Ferrari has done something clever with aerodynamics (just guessing here, but maybe they’re using it to redirect air or equalize pressure in the car’s wake).
Like, yes.
Love? No.
I could never really appreciate banging around in a car with more grip and power than I can actually use on the road. Hell… even a quick “sportscar” like the 370Z or EVO is more than enough for anyone.
If I had a spare billion or two, I could imagine having a Zonda-shaped chandelier hanging from my bedroom ceiling… but to actually drive it… in anger… on the road?
The “need for speed” is an itch better served by the aforementioned Caterham… or even a Miata… or even a beater of a rental car with a rusty exhaust pipe and hubcaps.
Or if you’re the type who’s more impressed by speed… there’s a lot of cheaper metal for the money that can still hit double the speed limit or more and leave you with a goofy Baruthian smile on your face.
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Supercars are like fancy brand-name jewelry. Best viewed through glass and admired from afar. Up close… it’s just the same old gold and diamonds that everyone else is wearing. Just bigger.
Yeah, I’d much rather drive an Evo/370Z/Miata than a supercar – roll eyes…. Come on folks, let’s “keep it real”….
‘If’ you’ve got the money, there is no substitute. Don’t kid yourself. The Evo/370Z/Miata can’t even begin to ‘approach’ the driving experience (BTW – I’ve driven these cars + sampled a few uber-exotics). Not even in the same ballpark. In every way – Track, street, alley way… As it should be… That being said, I don’t have 250G’s toy money to enjoy the 458 experience. But I’m not going to knock those that do…
Heh heh, I got more tickets driving a 36 hp VW van, than I do driving my BMWs. The not-so-super cars of yore do more for me than the new ones. Purely because I like the shapes of the old ones better. Flowing curves, not all angles and wings. 21st century headlight treatments are fugly.
Driving a Ferrari or a Lamorghini may give you the impression of status, but to me it says you have more money than brains. Hell yes, I’m envious. That kinda money, I would use to become debt free and retired.
Driving My stock E34 at 6/10ths versus 9/10ths is a whole different experience. I mean its out of this world. That being said I can’t drive it at the limit for more then a millisecond. It scares me so much, I feel I could die, just from the experience. It is fun as hell though. I imagine more sporty cars being even more fun to drive, but I think part of the reason my car is fun to drive at the limit is because I’m taking it there, rather it taking me. I don’t see myself safely approaching the limits of supercar in a sane state of mind, which to me means its not really a fun thing to do. That’s like cheating on my girl with a hot babe, its sounds more fun than it is. Self trust it where the fun is.
Who says you need to approach 9/10’s in an exotic to have fun? The fun starts when you ‘approach/see’ the car and admire the incredible craftsmanship and beauty/lines. This fun continues when you enter the car and ‘smell/touch’ the fine leathers and materials. It gets even better when you twist the key (or push starter button) are ‘hear’ the sound of a glorious engine. Heck, you don’t even need to drive out of the garage and the experience surpasses most lesser cars balz-out. Of course for ulimate fun the supercar needs to be used as intended, which means a few speeding tickets (which I’m sure these folks can afford) or used at track days (which I’m sure these folks can afford). But the bottom line is this – I’m sure glad these cars are produced and some folks can afford them, cause if the most exciting cars were EVO’s/370’s/Miata’s/BMW’s it sure would be a boring automotive landscape.
Fair point, OneRare. That is certainly true of the exotics I’ve driven.
Part of the high horsepower appeal is the feeling of neverending, bottomless power. That said, it’s sad to know that many of these works of art end up as boulevard cruisers.
As a weird wraparound, it’s one think I actually like about the Challenger. The automotive press gets on its case because it doesn’t handle like the Mustang or the Camaro… but most people I know who would want a Challenger (or even either of the other two) could care less about handling. They want it to be fast when you stomp on it, look cool, and feel cushy. I almost think the Challenger out-muscle-cars the other two. Of course I’d rather own a Mustang, but that’s because I like sports cars. I’d probably rather take a trip to Vegas in a Challenger though…
Areitu – I will say, *some* of the traction control systems allow people to extract better performance out of the car (but not the one in the Z!). I also agree with Baruth there – traction control is a good idea for high-powered cars on the street.