Is that wagon the Opel Insignia (formerly Vectra)? I wish we could get that model in North America. Mind you, what looks to be 18 inch rims is unnecessary.
The wagon’s based on the sedan’s chassis rather than a stretch version used up to this model. It has risible stowage capacity, less than a Peugeot 307’s.
And the HSV habit of silly detailing to differentiate them from garden variety Holdens is usually gauche but never more so than with the G8 leftovers. At least now they’ve got DRL and the fat guys that drive them can finally turn their parkers off.
Still not a huge fan of the Pontiac hood, but willing to put up with it if I can have a car like this. Especially a wagon. Seriously, where is my NSFW’ing Sportswagon?
It takes a special kind of company to have it’s head so far up it’s job security that it fails to bring these vehicles to the US market after all the resources put forward to date.
A G8 doing 30+mpg? A good car gets even better and gains more exposure in markets looking for something different in a non-gas guzzler. An intelligent executive team could probably turn that company around.
it’s not really that strange that the new hsv’s haven’t had a very good reception. considering that the first gen VE hsv’s were reasonably understated (at least as far as hsv is considered) these 2nd-gen models are hideous.
then again, it’s a return to form for hsv, who seem to think that the more plastic cladding we throw at a car the better it will be.
and hsv driver’s will always have their parkers on – they need them on so they can have their foglights on in the middle of the day…
I think we agree on the styling, in general. Plenty of people hate(d) the Pontiac hood scoops and it probably would have sold better without them. Pontiac, as a brand, has it’s own redneck/mullet reputation problem.
The draw for the US market is there is hardly anything like this under $40k or $50k USD, not since Pontiac was binned. There is a market here for a large, RWD sport sedan (and wagon) and a vocal minority are absolutely willing to drive these overstyled examples to satisfy the desire.
It is extra frustrating because GM can obviously produce some very nice packages and yet they continually refuse to bring them to the US unless Bob Lutz gets a hair up his butt about it. Even then GTO & G8 hood scoops show the kind of pandering marketing crap GM throws at their customers.
“The wagon’s based on the sedan’s chassis rather than a stretch version used up to this model. It has risible stowage capacity, less than a Peugeot 307’s.”
Sorry mate that’s bullshit. The Sportwagon is the second largest wagon on sale in Australia after the Falcon in load space. Granted it’s much smaller than the previous Commodore wagon, but that was like an aircraft hanger. The wagon is by far the best car in their line-up.
a) they didn’t have the direct injection V6 in the base model of the G8 from the get go (especially since it came out during sky high fuel prices).
b) It wasn’t brought over as a Chevrolet instead of a Pontiac. Pontiac’s brand image was already too damaged to save it.
I actually think my G8 would be a little bland without the hood scoops, but the front end of the Holden is already so garish that it just puts things over the top. The black trim pieces on the red one is make my eyes hurt. That all white one looks great and I don’t even like white cars. I like all of the wheels, though.
The station wagon is kinda neat, though I’d never own a wagon. I don’t think the ute would have sold more than a handful here and I didn’t understand why GM wanted to bring that over. The wagon would have sold better, but much like with the Dodge Magnum, after the first couple thousand people in the entire U.S. interested bought theirs, it’d sit on lots.
I don’t see anything wrong in that picture.
Well, maybe the lack of a Monaro.
The tag on the picture doesn’t say: “2010 (fill in GM of North America brand here) range”?
The tag should say “The cars Americans would actually buy”
Hmmm…
There’s no Buick version.
The pavement isn’t draining correctly.
Looks like Holden’s got a lot of spare Pontiac grills and hoods to use up before they get back to good looking cars.
Are there Aussie Union rules that kept these desirable cars from being assembled in America for North Americans?
Would this model line have caused too much upset to the CAFE ratings?
Or is GM just terminally stupid?
Wow they have a wagon too! Perhaps I should move to Oz
The presence of a wagon AND a ute bring a tear to my eye :(
Maybe I’ll import one in 24 yrs…..
Are those Porsche style LED light bars below the headlights, or are they just chrome strips reflecting the light?
Is that wagon the Opel Insignia (formerly Vectra)? I wish we could get that model in North America. Mind you, what looks to be 18 inch rims is unnecessary.
No, it’s a RWD wagon, the spiritual successor of the old Opel Omega.
Forget North America, slap a lightning bolt on it and send it to Europe.
Shame, shame on GM for cramming all that unsalable merchandise down the Australians’ throats.
@thalter:
From the link: “A strip of LED daytime running lights are also a key talking point of the new design, and are standard across the HSV E2 range.”
The wagon’s based on the sedan’s chassis rather than a stretch version used up to this model. It has risible stowage capacity, less than a Peugeot 307’s.
And the HSV habit of silly detailing to differentiate them from garden variety Holdens is usually gauche but never more so than with the G8 leftovers. At least now they’ve got DRL and the fat guys that drive them can finally turn their parkers off.
I can haz one of each?
i find it strange that the overwhelming response here (australia) is negative
we don’t like the overdone mitsubishi/pontiac nose with the numerous vents, we don’t like the wheels, nor do we like the audi running lights
the tail treatment on the GTS is dire
problem is the Series 1 looked fine and there are heaps of these 300kW/400hp machines on the 2nd hand market
HSV here is synomous for overstyled bogan/redneck machines
that silver one in the middle (Grange?) is ok though
Still not a huge fan of the Pontiac hood, but willing to put up with it if I can have a car like this. Especially a wagon. Seriously, where is my NSFW’ing Sportswagon?
It takes a special kind of company to have it’s head so far up it’s job security that it fails to bring these vehicles to the US market after all the resources put forward to date.
A G8 doing 30+mpg? A good car gets even better and gains more exposure in markets looking for something different in a non-gas guzzler. An intelligent executive team could probably turn that company around.
it’s not really that strange that the new hsv’s haven’t had a very good reception. considering that the first gen VE hsv’s were reasonably understated (at least as far as hsv is considered) these 2nd-gen models are hideous.
then again, it’s a return to form for hsv, who seem to think that the more plastic cladding we throw at a car the better it will be.
and hsv driver’s will always have their parkers on – they need them on so they can have their foglights on in the middle of the day…
I think we agree on the styling, in general. Plenty of people hate(d) the Pontiac hood scoops and it probably would have sold better without them. Pontiac, as a brand, has it’s own redneck/mullet reputation problem.
The draw for the US market is there is hardly anything like this under $40k or $50k USD, not since Pontiac was binned. There is a market here for a large, RWD sport sedan (and wagon) and a vocal minority are absolutely willing to drive these overstyled examples to satisfy the desire.
It is extra frustrating because GM can obviously produce some very nice packages and yet they continually refuse to bring them to the US unless Bob Lutz gets a hair up his butt about it. Even then GTO & G8 hood scoops show the kind of pandering marketing crap GM throws at their customers.
The car in the foreground has its headlights on, but they are not on in its reflection.
“The wagon’s based on the sedan’s chassis rather than a stretch version used up to this model. It has risible stowage capacity, less than a Peugeot 307’s.”
Sorry mate that’s bullshit. The Sportwagon is the second largest wagon on sale in Australia after the Falcon in load space. Granted it’s much smaller than the previous Commodore wagon, but that was like an aircraft hanger. The wagon is by far the best car in their line-up.
It’s too bad that
a) they didn’t have the direct injection V6 in the base model of the G8 from the get go (especially since it came out during sky high fuel prices).
b) It wasn’t brought over as a Chevrolet instead of a Pontiac. Pontiac’s brand image was already too damaged to save it.
I actually think my G8 would be a little bland without the hood scoops, but the front end of the Holden is already so garish that it just puts things over the top. The black trim pieces on the red one is make my eyes hurt. That all white one looks great and I don’t even like white cars. I like all of the wheels, though.
The station wagon is kinda neat, though I’d never own a wagon. I don’t think the ute would have sold more than a handful here and I didn’t understand why GM wanted to bring that over. The wagon would have sold better, but much like with the Dodge Magnum, after the first couple thousand people in the entire U.S. interested bought theirs, it’d sit on lots.
I’ll take Hood Scoops for $50 and Green El Caminos for $100, Alex.
No BS, Nicodemus. Commodore 2000 litres, Peugeot 2032. Of course, they don’t make the 307 any more but the 308’s even bigger.