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Challenge me, will you? Daddyblogger, mommyblogger, whatever. The B&B should consider itself empowered to call me a “daddyblogger” for the foreseeable future. The important thing is that none of us in this business take it too seriously. We’re all just writing about cars, you know? If you want respect as a journalist, do some of this stuff.
P.S. Please, everybody, don’t follow-request me. All I do is talk about my guitar collection and flirt with aging girljournos. You don’t want to read it and neither does anyone else.
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” If you want respect as a journalist”
I don’t want respect as a journalist. I’m not a journalist. I’d just like it if we could try to respect each other as people.
guess I’m asking too much. Might as well invite Bertel Schmitt back if this is the way things are going to be.
forget it.
Is … is that the queen of 4Chan ?
I sent a request, I talk about my guitars all day long as well …
Well, that IS Boxxy, so, yah.
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” I’d just like it if we could try to respect each other as people.”
you really mean
“I’d just like it if I could control the terms of discourse to omit anything I find distasteful.”
There, I fixed it for ya.
Those word games you play don’t work on everybody. Word up, there’s a growing number fighting back against the PC madness.
Well, that IS Boxxy, so, yah.
…this sort of meta-content does the site poor service…
It illustrates the lighter side of the guys and gals at ttac.
But it also drives home the point that as a writer you’re often damned if you do, and damned if you don’t.
No matter what is said or how it is said, there is always someone to pick nits.
Well, to pick that particular nit, when your kid needs checking for lice, there isn’t always someone to pick the nits. Sometimes you have to do it yourself. My kids’ school used to require parents to have to volunteer for lice inspecting. On the internet, though, not only is there always someone to pick nits, there’s almost always also a third party who chimes in, “yeah, I’m glad someone else noticed that”.
Frankly, these sorts of ‘conversations’ are really important because we all tend to ignore them as they’re uncomfortable.
For me, it helps me understand when I’m being truly offensive or when someone is using status as a victim to manipulate. Sometimes it can be both.
I actually like the meta. It’s one of the things that separates blogs from magazines. Writers can check in as real people.
Another advantage of a blog is that the scroll wheel is right under your finger.
isnt she the patron saint of xBs, cubes, and souls? as well as the queen /b? i like your steez, jack.
She certainly has my soul.
You daddyblogger. Let’s not let fraudulent appeals to identity politics put ridiculous Twitter captions beyond satire.
The more things change, the more things stay the same.
Old guy: “I don’t hold racist views against Chinese, I’m married to a Japanese lady!”
New guy: “I’m not easily outraged over the easily outraged over possibly sexist parenthood remarks, I’m a dad!”
The point is to show that Sharon Silke Carty’s Twitter handle is not deserving of ridicule because of her gender but despite it.
Wow people taking things a bit seriously..
Anyways very funny Jack
Yes I was gonna say there seems to be a whole bunch of panties wadded up around here. Oh wait I shouldn’t say that….
Go to her Jack.
+1
Boxxy!
He’s Baruth, you see?
I guess you are trying to be cool/ironic but the whole “mommyblogger” kerfuffle was a legitimate subject on how women are treated.
Sexism and racism work both ways. I’m not going to put words into anyone’s mouth so let me state my opinion.
I see very little sexism in the real world, on the Internet its a different story.
As a White Male I’m seen as impervious to attacks from any direction, which just aint so.
While I don’t believe in role bubbles in society, I do believe there is a legitimate reason they exist. I had women in welding classes and I was in some extremely women dominated classes as a kid of my own decisions. But honestly if I hire a welder I’m expecting a guy, either way there are good and bad male/female welders, likewise if someone wants a person to do sewing, they wouldn’t expect me to show up(plus I suck at it)
My point is…
I don’t see predisposed opinions as a form of hate. And I and everyone else makes predisposed opinions on these things. Maybe some wont admit it, but its nature to do so. – “play with fire, get burned”.
That said, some people need to learn to stfu.
Including myself.
“I see very little sexism in the real world”
“While I don’t believe in role bubbles in society, I do believe there is a legitimate reason they exist”
These 2 statements are in direct contradiction. Assuming that a welder should be male and a tailor should be female is at the heart of sexism. While I agree that not all predisposed opinions are a form of hate, those assumptions limit us all. Dismissing a female mechanic as less competent than a male one is just as limiting as assuming that a female is a better caregiver than a male.
Very true, my bad.
I guess I didn’t think that through.
It’s understandable, we’ve long been conditioned to accept these gender roles as factual, that men are best at the physical and logical work while women are best at the soft and emotional work. I still tend to want a male doctor/dentist, and a woman in the trades is going to have to talk a very good game up front to get to give her the same respect that I would give a man. By the same token, I’ll more likely respect a woman’s opinion on clothing or grooming. It’s going to take a long period of crossing those roles boundries before we stop making those old assumptions, though I doubt that women are ever going to give ground on which sex make better caregivers.
I can agree with all that, I guess my question is, “Is it “wrong””.
Modern society looks down on it, with good reasons, but at the end of the day are “gender roles” necessarily a “problem”?
Assuming gender roles as an “instinct” rather than “learned” disposition, do we as a society need to change this behavior?
Again assuming you or anyone else sees “gender roles” as instinctual trait, maybe I’m wrong here.
It’s wrong and a problem when someone isn’t given the chance to fill a role they’re qualified for, irrespective of gender.
Whether the default roles are learned or instinctual, recognizing our faulty assumptions lets us make better decisions, and frees up everyone to be happier and more productive.
Good point, I can agree with that.
Wait, a civilized discussion on the Internet? I feel like I just saw a unicorn.
You hit on an important point. I think, in terms of race and gender, that we all have pre-formed opinions and ideas, good and bad. It’s very hard not to. The difference is whether or not you act on those opinions. You may expect your prospective welder to be male, and you may be shocked or slightly surprised when a female applies. That’s okay. But when you *act* on that gender-idea by choosing not to hire her because she’s female, that’s when you’ve gone too far.
It sounds weird, I know, but that’s where I stand on that issue.
Basically, it’s the idea that actions are the final determination of “right” and “wrong” (though, of course, intent does matter).
Clearly now when you *act* on some internal thought by typing it with your fingers and publishing it, you’ve got to deal with the backlash.
I’m wary of this “freedom means you’re free to think whatever you like, but not act on it” idea, since you could say that about the USSR under Stalin too.
Hummer, I’m not judging your motives but when someone writes “predisposed opinions” to me it translates into a sugar coated form of the word prejudice. As in pre-judging someones value or merit (usually in a negative way) due to being the “other” (gender, race, religion, orientation). When someone assumes a welder whom is female cannot be proficient in that job or other careers that have been off limits for no good reason. When people assume a stereotypical mindset no one wins.
I worked in a blue-collar (all male, except for me) industrial setting. In spite of doing a excellent job I was told in no uncertain terms I did not belong there. Since I would not let them intimidate me the majority decided I was fair game for sexual harassment and assault. I did a good job and had ethics but I was treated like I wasn’t even human.
You may see very little sexism in your world but most men do not. Walk a mile (or two) in my sensible shoes and you would see and hear it loud and clear.
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How easily/conveniently ‘Rosie the Riveter’_Welder_Machinist_Trans-Oceanic Multi-Engine Bomber Delivery Pilot, is forgotten.
Women and society, are just as sexist as men. And, women do it with ease, never questioning their right or legitimacy to say it.
If it’s a legitimate subject, the internet has a way of shutting the whole thing down.
I believe “mommyblogger” is condescending in the context it was used, but I also believe that Ms. Carty, and especially the more vocal of her proponents, are making far too much of the whole gaffe, while being unreasonably rigid in terms of not accepting an apology, and therefore risk both being labeled radical reactionaries & pussies.
If some other full of themselves person had the Twitter caption “I balance the glamor of auto reporting with the glamor of Christianity”, and someone called them a Christian blogger, would we be calling that statement religious bigotry?
I balance the glamor of casual serial murder with the glamor of Satanism. Who am I?
The Stig.
touché
So, about that GT86 platform…
I heard it needs more horsepower.
I imagine this has already been re-posted, but I am tired and going to bed. When I read the original piece it reminded me of this, and now this comes up. Not sure where it ranks in the pantheon of all of this talk, but Jack addressed the Mommy Blogger aspect a while back.
https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/02/attention-mommybloggers-make-20-right-now/
If you go back one more to
https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/02/cute-mom-wont-astroturf-for-toyota-toyota-by-the-way-owes-us-a-10-gift-card/
You can read all about the “cute” mommyblogger
My comment reposted from the previous article:
Mothers Against Drunk Driving, Million Mom Marches, Mom’s Demand Action…etc….etc….etc.
Mothers are constantly mixing their personal and professional credentials – usually to attract attention or to imply that their experience as a mother instantly makes them an expert with a unique view on the topic at hand.
It’s stupid. Being a mother doesn’t automatically make you an expert in motherhood, let alone any other topic. Those credentials need to be earned. Simply reproducing doesn’t make you an expert in anything.
Sharon Carty mentioned motherhood in her professional twitter caption. She invited “mommyblogger” status – no one forced that on her.
She non only invited it, she actively courted the credential, props and automatic credibility of mommyblogger status (as long as it was positive and complimentary). However if anyone says anything critical they better not taint thier statements with mention of anything pertaining to her gender… There’s a term for someone who wants to deliver one message to one group without allowing another group to hear it; “two faced”. It’s not a compliment and it applies regardless of gender.
Some people are far too easily offended. Some people are far to easily offended on other peoples behalf. Some people just need to STFU.
That is all.
No its not.
“illegitimate fatherhood”
see, JB takes it to the next level
So, How about that UAW!
And I want to be respected as a star of the adult cinema like Ron Jeremy. You know what they say. Want in one hand and…
Being called a mommyblogger is a compliment. It means you moved from the basement to the kitchen.