Just as with emissions and headlamps, standards recently adopted in the United States regarding consumer data and privacy won’t be compatible elsewhere, specifically in Europe.
Per Automotive News Europe, Stephan Appt, legal director of Munich, Germany-based international law firm Pinsent Masons, says the standards developed by the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers and the Association of Global Automakers to both handle said data and ensure privacy “are a step in the right direction,” but aren’t enough for European authorities.
Issues concerning the standards — which were agreed upon earlier this month by BMW, Chrysler, Ford, General Motors, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Mercedes-Benz, Nissan, Toyota and Volkswagen — include vague and broad statements within the framework, as well as consumers giving “implicit consent to allow data processing based (upon) their mere usage of vehicle technologies and services,” an act that would run afoul of European privacy standards.
Appt added that support for the guidelines shows that automakers “are taking the issue of protecting driver data seriously enough to put aside their differences and collaborate,” and hopes those in Europe would do the same to mitigate risk in violating local privacy laws.
Oh, for crap sake, who cares. It’s not like we have to prep cars for export to Yurrup.
And where’s the Renegade already?
Tap… tap… tap… Yeah, where’s the Renegade?
Do you think for even one second that I believe my data will be protected?
Loopholes allow the gov to have access to everything.
Hackers have access to even more.
Ye Gods! Someone might learn of your favorite burger joint!
My car has already been hacked, the NSA knows when I’m due for an oil change
Ya know, I’m assuming from his self-important outrage and the adolescent wannabeeism of his moniker that this kid is a kid.
He therefore may very well be facing a dystopian future like a Stasi wet-dream where governing entities have dirt on everyone plus each other and are able to direct two-legged weapon platforms at you anytime, anywhere acting upon criminal charges plucked from the data like Seroogys from a gift box.
But I’m old so I don’t care.
and the neo stasi will control movement when a not so loyal subject acts up simply by hitting the electro kill switch and beaming it down to said vehicle, happy days ahead
Ooh, that’s not good. My car can be a real anarchist, try explaining that to your service adviser
Meh… it would take me a while to realize I was no longer moving.
The problem is NOT with government learning the name of your favorite burger spot. The problem IS that sooner of later government might think that EVERYONE who eats there is affiliated with isis or whatever is the latest flavor of the month and decide to dish out deep cavity searches (just in case). While they are at it, they’ll give one to your gf, every living relative, and dig up grandpa just to make sure he is not plotting something underground.
This sort of thing works fine most of the time, but once in the while things do get wrong for honest, law abiding people. Do YOU want to be the one on the receiving end of the “government got it all wrong” case?
You’re a perfect spokesman for the privacy hysterics.
He’s not wrong, don’t be a “I’ve got nothing to hide, so it can’t happen to me” type.
You’re too smart for that
“You’re too smart for that”
Apparently not. *Snoopy Dance*
Even Snoopy could see through the Red Barron
Now, Snoopy had sworn that he’d get that man
So he asked the Great Pumpkin for a new battle plan.
He challenged the German to a real dogfight
While the Baron was laughing, he got him in his sight.
True fact:
Every official report of the Red Baron’s death had to say “nipple”. Which in German literally means breast wart.
Government works fine none of the time. it’s very essence is to ringfence and enrich those who are not decent and law abiding.
What only works some of the time, is most subjects’ critical facilities.
Only breast warts believe they can change human nature.
Rather, I say, seek to limit humans and then their nature won’t be so corrosive.
So how much expensive will my car be now because they have be designed and built to be in compliance with two different standatds.
On reading what this article says, it doesn’t sound like US versus Europe, bur rather the AAMA’s own self-developed standards versus European privacy regulations.
If the issue really is “implicit consent to allow data processing based (upon) their mere usage of vehicle technologies and services,” i.e. your act of pressing the OnStar button allows the data associated with whatever you do subsequently to be used for nefarious purposes, then the concerns raised by the Munich law firm are probably valid – but it’s also potentially easy to fix … You press that button, you get a question “Do you consent to … yes/no”. If that’s not good enough, you sign some sort of consent form at the time of vehicle purchase.
It’s completely unsurprising that the auto manufacturers want to do this the easy way and which allows them some sort of advantage.
Nothing puts fear into the hearts of Germany’s high cost structure automakers, like the notion that an electronics less cheap econobox, may actually be preferable for a large and growing segment of the buying public.
As long as the sensors and connectivity is there, the data will be gathered. BY FAR the only viable option for consumers actually concerned about privacy, is to destroy the sensors, and replace them on as needed basis with open source vetted, open platform hosted ones with all external communication strongly encrypted and mixed.
What the Euros want, is not privacy. But rather a population with it’s guard sufficiently down, to allow the usual coquetry of more equals, to gather all the info they can on their sheeples in peace.
Look just because Europe measures it’s privates in millimeters, and we measure ours in feet doesn’t mean we can’t get along.
Oh wait I misread.