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It looks like the cat’s out of the bag as shots of the Alfa Romeo Giulia, seemingly mostly screen captures from a video, have hit the web.
What do you think? More photos after the jump.
If sources are correct, a 510 hp version of the Giulia will be available from Day 1.
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The front looks like a Jag, the side like a Pontiac from the wavy-body-cladding era, and the rear a BMW.
I like that interior though; snazzy. (Though the really long “hood” over the primary gauges looks silly.)
Those gauge hoods were pretty distinctive on the (relatively recent) 156 and 159, too. It made the gauges very easy to read
The these are shots from the official unveiling which took place today.
It’s not as Alfa-curvacious as I wanted, but still looks good and unique. The top powertrain is appealing as is the interior.
Official images have finally been posted. I will get them up in a moment.
I like it but won’t be able to afford it. So… a moot point.
CPO or leasing… not expecting these to keep their value.
Leasing is magic my man.
Certainly better than I thought from the initial leak, but it really has a look of Mazda meets Jaguar that I can’t get out of my mouth.
A more valiant effort than I gave Sergio credit for, but this will not be enough to establish Alfa Romeo as a top-league luxury brand unless they’re willing to do what Lexus did and sell the initial models at a loss.
At this point, they could aim for Jaguar and Volvo levels of brand prestige in North America, which would be an accomplishment in itself seeing how Alfa has been off the radar this long, but FCA looks like they’ll lose this bluff on Alfa if they’re counting on it to deliver BMW-levels of profit.
If they want good sales they need to hit the full 3 series range with similar (or preferably slightly lower) prices. Cadillac and Jaguar already have unobtanium big buck ‘M3 fighters’ but that’s not going to worry BMW too much in light of the huge numbers of 316-338(?) sold or leased.
Agreed. And lease the base models out for a song.
Still looks like a G37 in profile and rear.
“If sources are correct, a 510 hp version of the Giulia will be available from Day 1.”
Nice.
The good thing about FCA is they know power delivers and sells the lesser models. La Giulia Alfa Romeo Il gatto di inferno.
I see the 37 too.
Nice windows you can actually see out of, no turd in the hole feeling.
The exhaust from the straight on rear view is sweet but the rear valance has a weird bulge seen in some angles around the exhaust tips making it look like it filled its pants.
Would like to see it in other colours.
Maybe G37…but they stole the side windows from a 1999 BMW 3-series:
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I’m seeing more Q50 than G37 in the profile, rear, and headlights. Definitely some Infiniti design language. Interior looks to be BMW influenced.
After a recent promotion at work I’m shopping in this category. I was waiting for this unveiling before spending my money on anything else.
It’s not as Alfa-tastic as I would have hoped. In fact, besides the grill, it looks sort of generic in a “sporty aggressive” sort of way.
I was hoping for something more in the vein of a 159. Giulia, you are not the one.
It’s MEH (emphasis on the M the E and the H, especially given what the PRICE will be.
Hate on my declaration of opinion until the end of time, Danio, but I say that as one who looks more favorably on Chrysler 300s, Dodge Durangos, Dodge Challengers, Jeep Grand Cherokees, and Hellcat, SRT and even R/T and Pentastar V6 anythings over anything from GM (La Fail Spectalaire in French) or Ford.
This looks a lot like the Dart/200, with what appears to be a very cheap looking, disgusting real or fake carbon fiber accenteted plastic fantastic interior.
Could hardly be more derivative.
Your screeds don’t bother me at all. They’re tiresome and predictable, so I usually just scroll on by.
You really don’t believe this looks less than Alfa worthy, and furthermore, a mashup of sorts between a dart and 200 with some sporty accents/accoutrements thrown in?
You are blinded by an irrational & unobjective loyalty, which would be great if this were your child, but it’s a car FFS.
No, I don’t see the Dart/200 mashup you are so intent on foisting on the rest of us. The longitudinal engine gives a decent length from front door to front wheel, unlike the Chrysler transverse-engine cars.
The Guilia also has double wishbone front suspension and multilink rear. As is so often the case here at TTAC these days, half the info is left out. From Motor Authority:
“original plan was to base the car on Fiat Chrysler Automobiles’ [NYSE:FCAU] Compact U.S. Wide platform underpinning the Chrysler 200, but with Sergio Marchionne’s decision to make all Alfa Romeos either rear- or all-wheel-drive, a drastic redesign was called for.
The platform is now thought to be a lower-cost version of the rear-wheel-drive platform found in Maserati’s Ghibli and Quattroporte sedans. Code-named Giorgio, the new platform will offer the option of all-wheel drive and will eventually be used for a handful of Alfa products as well as the next-generation Dodge Challenger and next-generation versions of the Chrysler 300 and Dodge Charger. The new Giulia, which carries the internal code Tipo 952, will be the first recipient of the platform.”
So this is, maybe, the new underpinnings of the next Chrysler 300, etc. as well. Now you can start complaining that the next chassis won’t be a 15 year old cheap remake of a remake of an obsolete Mercedes E-Class.
Of course, all this is dependent on the Marchionne Crowd Sourcing Appeal to other automakers, and subject to total change by the end of next week.
“the new platform will offer the option of all-wheel drive and will eventually be used for a handful of Alfa products as well as the next-generation Dodge Challenger and next-generation versions of the Chrysler 300 and Dodge Charger.”
oRly? BTSR will have to start chugging amontillado instead of PBR.
I agree with the MEH, at least from the point of view of styling, as one who likes classic American cars, Peugeot 404s, Porsches, Bangle BMWs, S2000s, the new Miata, the ‘Vette, and who thinks most modern cars besides Honda cars (as opposed to CUVs, etc) that are not on this list look bad.
Is the Ghibli and V6 Quattroporte getting a power bump?
Kind of lame for the little brother to make 100 more horsepower.
Well, I guess if one would like some 3 Series market share, might as well make a 3 Series clone. Right Jaguar? Right Cadillac? Right Alfa?
Kind of ironic. BMW used to go to Bertone for design help. Now the Italians are going German.
It’s a “sport sedan”. Looks like it can’t decide if it wants to be a circa-2010 3-series or Impreza. Is it supposed to FWD or RWD?
RWD, baby! AWD is an option.
Looks like a BMW from the side and a Jag from the back. The interior looks like it came from a car spares shop that you’d find on any high street. That said I think the new Alfa and the new Jaguar XE are going to start to make life a bit harder for BMW, Mercedes and Audi. Alfa’s bigger problem is that this is just one car. Even Jaguar have solid cars in the XE, XF, F type and XJ, with the F Pace coming later. 1 car won’t solve Alfa’s problems but it’s a start.
157/159 were much, much better looking. Interior looks decent, especially getting rid of that CF for some nice matte wood would be nice.
I’m worried all that flat blank space around the center screen is just going to look cheap in person though.
Yes, this thing needs wood and plenty of it.
Ironically, the first Acura TSX (which was a loving homage to Alfa, IMHO) pulled off Alfa better interior-wise than this does.
Ooooh what a sexy beast! I think this shade of red may be the only way to go.
“What do you think?”
It’s attractive enough, but it isn’t exceptional. I’m not seeing what would lure many buyers away from the Germans.
Repeat of the ATS?
The ATS is cannibalizing the CTS. Alfa does not have much of anything to cannibalize, so it isn’t quite the same thing.
The main problem is that it isn’t German. At least Audi could ride BMW’s and Mercedes’ coattails by appealing to national heritage, but Alfa can’t do that.
They actually can ride the coat tails of Ferrari and Maserati if they market it well. Don’t say ‘Ferrari designed’ engine – just call Ferrari built
While appealing to Ferrari heritage is the best way to go, it doesn’t speak to the practical side of the sports sedan market nor popular notions of the virtues of “German engineering.” (The latter is certainly overhyped, yet it is compelling to the marketplace.)
The main problem is that it doesn’t look enough like an Alfa. Paint it Infiniti taupe and slap on different badges and it would easily pass for a Q/G.
Looking like an Alfa hasn’t exactly been a selling point.
I agree with Pch101 about the appearance, although I’d be more critical: I don’t think the exterior is attractive. Actually, it reminds me of one of the presidential debates in ’08, where when the moderator asked Clinton whether she had the personal appeal to best her opponent, Obama interjected with, “You’re likable enough, Hillary”
The new alpha is just another pod, with a slightly distinctive face (something that’s not hard these days).
I do think that it is attractive. I’m just not sure that it’s enough to motivate many buyers to ride a new horse. (The leasing program had better be excellent.)
Perhaps BMW’s grenading engines will help sway the naysayers…
Apparently I’m the only one who sees a straight copy of the E90/92 3-series interior, except for those distended gauge pods and the loudly garish materials. The side profile also has a strong whiff of E90 about it.
Meh. I can’t see this making me want to roll the dice on FCA reliability, particularly at the likely prices.
“I can’t see this making me want to roll the dice on FCA reliability”
A lease with free maintenance. (It works for BMW.)
Yes, I’m seeing a lot of E90 in there myself. And the Lexus clone of that car, too. Not that it’s a bad thing, but I think we’re stuck with these proportions for a while, at least until regulations change. I like the looks of the car inside and out.
I’d really like to see it in person, though. Not that I could afford something like that, but it would be fun.
I see some Infiniti in the profile, especially rear quarterpanel, and Jaguar in the headlights, maybe even some Lexus in the rear lamps. The Alpha grill makes it distinctive though, and the whole looks good IMO.
How do you pronounce “Giulia” anyway? Will there be a trim level or appearance package named “Julia”?
I like it but the more I hear about the more expensive it sounds. FCA should tread lightly with the pricing. An AMG or M price tag does not make an AMG alone. See cadillac for reference.
I’m glad to see they didn’t bother with trunk alignment x.x
So, it’s a BMW with a different grille. Seriously, how did car design get to be so monotonous? I wanted to be a car designer so bad for most of my life. The last 5-years or so, meh. Is it because the training is standardized? Is it because the current crop just aren’t “car-guys” and “car-gals”? Sure there’s more contraints on designers, but there’s more technological capability and other freedoms. Yet, cars and especially SUV/CUVs are a morass of sameness. Go back to 1970 and park a Challenger, Mustang and Camaro next each other – wow! all look great, all look different. Now park this Alfa, a BMW and a Lexus IS next each other – ’nuff said.
BMW is what the “hip trend setter high influentials” buy, so its what everyone copies. Its been that way for the last 2 decades. If it aint BMW its Mercedes.
European safety standards are one problem, taking too many risks is another. While the TTAC crowd loves old-school Alfas, buyers didn’t.
Cars in any given class look similar because they are all built to the same (rather tight) rules and regulations, and they are all trying to appeal to the same group of buyers. It’s the same reason the US Space Shuttle and the Soviet space shuttle look so similar, and why all jet airliners look pretty much the same too. Detail differences only. Back in the day, you could be a whole lot more individual with design. Nobody really knew what worked!
I think it looks fine. I am generally not a fan of the boyracer versions of cars, so I want to see the base car. I feel the same way about BMWs, I think a basic 3 in a nice color combo is more attractive than a hyper-aggressive M3. And of course, I want to see the wagon version, as that will almost certainly be a better looking car than the sedan. Nobody seems to know what to do with the back of a sedan anymore.
Regulations really have little to do with it.
You’re an automaker. You’re about to spend several hundred million dollars to design a car. Do you:
a. Create a unique design that appeals to eight guys on the interwebs (who will never buy your cars, anyway)
b. Create a familiar design that uses proven and popular styling cues that have a track record of appealing to a broader audience that actually does buy cars
(There is a correct answer to this question.)
Automakers get radical for the mainstream when they are so desperate that they have no choice.
The exterior is overstyled, lacks subtlety. As if that were common these days.
Final judgment will wait until I see it in the metal; but initial reaction is indifference. Would prefer a 2006 Quattroporte.
From what I can see, I like what I see. I think one of the things I like the best about it is that it has a name.
Giulia.
Beats the heck out of G43-XRT-LS351-ISD alphanumeric identifiers that cars have today.
Oh, and you kids, GET OFF MY LAWN!
a good-looking car! I own a Mercedes BlueTec (my wife drives it) and love it, but would never lease or own a BMW. Too many friends and work colleagues with tales of woe to even give ’em a second thought. This car, yes.
Tales of woe about BMWs scare you off so you would get an Alfa instead?
Uh oh.
Yes, certainly before any BMW. I think the front end on this one is given the usual beautiful treatment Alfas are known for.
Uh, it’s …nice.
Seriously, this is either a Hyundai-level appropriation of last-generation styling cues from other luxury marques, or BMW sold the tooling for the E92 3-series to FCA.
Alfa used to be known for leading-edge style. This is a letdown.
looks great except for the Edsel grille but FCA are gonna push that theme into the ground
i personally do not know why people are so resentful… here’s a reasonably priced mid sized RWD sporting sedan… isnt this what the enthusiast wants
i’d say a dark colour like charcoal would suit as it hides the grille
kinda want even with the BMW slash Mazda 6 cues