VW has released the pricing for the Jetta Sportwagon. The base S version, with a 170hp 2.5-liter five-banger is $18,999. For that price, you get power everything and a stick. For an automatic (six speed auto, not DSG), tack on a whopping $2k. The next version up the ladder: the $21,349 SE, complete with and leatherette, an upgraded sound system, standard alloys, and a whole lot more "available" luxury options. Again, add two grand for the autobox. If you really want to throw resale to the wind, you can get the Sportwagon with the beloved 2.0T engine with 200 horsepower. That'll set you back a staggering $25,990 for a manual version or $27,090 for the DSG automatic. In addition to the superior powerplant, the 2.0T SEL version comes pretty much fully loaded. Doesn't currency fluctuation suck? Still no word on the TDI version, set to go on sale in late summer or the fall. (Source: VW)
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Aren’t these built in Mexico alongside the Jetta sedan?
Thanks for the info. I’ll get this into TrueDelta’s database. Meaning these prices will appear on TTAC as soon as the techies figure out what’s been mucking up the server, and fix it…
I haven’t looked at the details yet, but if the DSG adds $2k then it probably includes some additional features. They usually charge about $1,075 for DSG alone.
These numbers don’t make much sense to me. The larger Passat wagon w/ Auto goes for $26,965. With discounts, even less.
Pricing ? I saw one of these going down the road Sunday afternoon.
Well,boredlawstudent, I just spotted an ’03 Passat wagon on a used lot for $8900, which is just a few hundred more than I just paid for an ’02 Beetle TDI (and that was an excellent price, $2K below average). When new, those two cars were top and bottom of VW’s pricing, probably $10k apart. That’s the power of TDI (besides the torque).
I don’t have the patience to wait for VW’s new models. I’m acting as if all the TDIs we’ll ever get are here now. That’s about how the market’s acting, too. Go ahead, Wolfsburgers, prove us all wrong– please!
who would buy loaded jetta wagon for $2k less than audi A4 stripper which is relatively loaded and infinitely superior in every way except it shares 2.0t and maybe some electric components. VW/Audi pricing seems out of balance.
Talk about niche marketing. I guess VW buyers are either unfamiliar with Audi, or somehow think they cant afford one.
That wagon should be 19k out the door with 2.0 no T. 2.5 should be retired. 2.0t, make it 21k. But I am glad they offer it, being a wagon. Add $500 for diesel please.
To continue rant, why is A3 with an option or two same price as entry A4? Salesman says “they are very different driving experiences”. He is right, A3 has less structure and less suspension, about same weight though. Oops thread hijack.
Heavy discounts will be waiting in the wings….
I’ll probably take one for a spin (2.0T version), but for $26k, there is no value proposition.
Wheatridger:
My extrapolated guesstimate from other diesel models (Cummins 5.9/6.7, Detroit 60s) pre & post 07 emissions is that the new TDIs will cost $1-2k more while being 10-20% less efficient.
I waiting for the oil burners from Honda and Subaru.
The TDI pricing was apparently listed at one point, then VW pulled it. http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=215258
Maybe they decided the TDI “wasn’t economically feasible at the current time” (which is what Keith Price has said about the Tiguan TDI). Or maybe VWoA is just stupid. Canadian TDI pricing has been available for a while.
Given the price of diesel fuel and the less than stellar MPG’s, the TDI doesn’t seem “economically feasible,” at least to me.
Remember though, even though the 2009 Jetta TDI is rated at 29/41, owners will likely see much higher than that. VW is saying 40s city, and 50s on the highway. No one will know for sure until people can actually buy them and do some mileage testing, but the EPA numbers were conservative for TDIs even before they changed their testing methods. Diesel is at about $4.80 where I am, and gas is $4.00. Even with diesel at 80 cents more per gallon, the TDI still makes sense on a cost per mile/km basis if a buyer drives enough miles per year.
As the previous owner of a ’98 Jetta GTI, I have to say that VW squeezed all of the life out of this product. This product’s primary target market is for German pensioners.
Am I just slow to the punch, but when did VW decide to drop the 4 year B2B warranty in favor of a 3 year one?
http://www.vw.com/jettasportwagen/completespecs/en/us/#/show_all
The auto is $1100 DSG or Tiptronic. The cost of fuel being higher for diesel is significant, but the diesel Golf I had got 45 mpg to and from work and my new 2.5 litre Rabbit does 28 mpg. My math $4.72 diesel and $4.00 gas gives me about $50 in my pocket with a diesel.
I’ve driven the Tiguan, and found it to be over-the-top atrocious. Too much chrome, too much height- it’s the car they should have been selling five years ago, when SUVs reigned supreme. Now, why would I buy (and finance) a 25 mpg SUV? I already have one sitting in the driveway, waiting for my next “utility” mission.
Even with higher disesel prices, my Beetle TDi costs me about $.12 a mile in fuel costs (a $55 tank gives almost 600 miles). Do that simple equation for your own cars for a fair, valid look at what’s “economically viable.” Then look at the resale value of current TDIs and you’ll see why I think my pair are the best automotive investments I’ve ever made.
Without the diesel, why even bother with Jetta instead of Passat? Price difference is not enough, and fuel efficiency of gas engine is 21/29 vs. 19/29. I guess to justify the Jetta, VW will have to eliminate all Passat grade levels below the top-loaded Komfort from the US market.
From the other perspective, I owned a 2005 Golf TDI with the 5spd automatic. My economy numbers were just about spot on, with an EPA combined of 32mpg and a real-world combined MPG of 34.
In my area, diesel is now about 95c higher per gallon than RUG, or an increase of about 25%.
I sold it back to the dealer for $800 less than what I paid for it 18 months prior. That was a month ago, its still on their lot as a CPO for 4K more than they gave me.
I, now, loudly criticise diesel where I formerly championed it. At this stage of things, here in the northeast, a diesel engine just really isn’t worth it. Maybe if things go back they way they came, but for now…TDI is DOA.
Instead of clamouring for more diesel options in America, I now hope for reasonably priced family sized hybrids.
gfen wrote:
Instead of clamouring for more diesel options in America, I now hope for reasonably priced family sized hybrids.
That makes perfect sense. Unfortunately, VW doesn’t offer hybrids either. Passat wagon hybrid might be tempting, if VW established a better track record for reliability.
@ gfen:
the new EPA numbers are WAY, WAY OFF with respect to my experience with my 3 diesel Mercedes:
My Average: 38-40 mpg for my 190 4 cyl.
EPA: 27!!!!! Way off.
My Average: 30 -36 mpg for my 190 5 cly.
EPA: 28
Diesel here in California is about 20 cents more than regular now( about 5%) , though it was about 70 cents more a few weeks ago. The diesel cars are much more efficent than the gasoline versions.
I just went out and test drove the 2009 diesel VW and loved it. It drives like a german performance car. Comparing that to the Prius, which drives like a cheap economy car, I would take the VW hands down. Oh and we got 37 mpg on our city test drive over hill in San Francisco area.