TTAC Data Dive: Ford Sales Graphs

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• 	Shogun July 21st, 2009 at 5:37 pm
  ..and that’s including fleet sales, right?
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• 	educatordan July 21st, 2009 at 6:12 pm
  And I assume Chrysler’s wouldn’t even fit on the chart?
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• 	bumpy ii July 21st, 2009 at 6:27 pm
  Right, fleet sales included. Fleetcentral does have fleet sales broken out, but only for aggregate six-month blocks October-March.
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• 	sean362880 July 21st, 2009 at 7:05 pm
  So Ford’s been following Toyota (mostly) since Jan 2007, and took their biggest hit pre-2006. Is 150k / mo enough to pay the bills? I doubt they’re going back to the good old days of 250 – 300k / mo.
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• 	beller July 21st, 2009 at 7:21 pm
  equally down! eventually it will move the other way. question is who will be here to see it
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• 	Dick July 21st, 2009 at 7:21 pm
  So what happened in July ’05? Was that huge ass bump the Mustang?
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• 	Joel July 21st, 2009 at 7:32 pm
  To me, the most interesting thing is how similar the spikes and dips are.
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• 	th009 July 21st, 2009 at 8:25 pm
  July 2005 had almost 70,000 extra trucks sold, most of those F-150s, compared to other months that year. You can bet it was some sort of sales promotion, employee pricing or the like.
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• 	PeteMoran July 21st, 2009 at 8:27 pm
  @ Joel To me, the most interesting thing is how similar the spikes and dips are. Yes, that’s what I wondered. It might be possible to argue that the Toyota line doesn’t jerk around as much, so one might suspect it’s the antics in the sales channel that cause GM/Ford’s to move around. Perhaps these are the “sales drives” and/or incentive campaigns? It must be hell planning manufacturing capacity in that environment.
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• 	SunnyvaleCA July 21st, 2009 at 8:31 pm
  >>>happened in July ‘05? Was that huge ass bump the Mustang<<< GM was up also, but I don’t think GM dealers sold many Mustangs. I think July ’05 was the first “employee pricing for everyone” extravaganza.
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• 	saluki_e90 July 21st, 2009 at 8:45 pm
  SAS graphs are awesome!! Go Proc GPLOT
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• 	fincar1 July 21st, 2009 at 9:41 pm
  I think that GM may have started the “employee pricing for everyone” in June 05, as only they have a big bump that month. Ford copied them in July…?
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• 	Quentin July 21st, 2009 at 11:05 pm
  I did a little different analysis. Basically, I used a method of averaging to normalize the graphs by pulling out insane high points and broke sales down to small and large cars, SUVs, and trucks. Sports cars and cars from non-core brands (dead/sold GM brands and PSG Ford brands) have been removed. I then added in economic conditions that influence purchases (credit and fuel prices). http://quentin.fauberg.com/nasioc/gm-sales-04.pdf http://quentin.fauberg.com/nasioc/toyota-sales-04.pdf http://quentin.fauberg.com/nasioc/ford-sales-03.pdf One thing about GM, they’ve mostly killed car brands, so that data might be slightly skewed (Pontiac and Saturn moved some metal), but I think it gives a pretty good trend between the brands and how they’re doing in their particular categories. The GM graph is particularly telling, though, why they are up shit creek.
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• 	KnightRT July 22nd, 2009 at 12:33 am
  Great stuff. Both sets of charts are excellent. Now this is the sort of thing other sites don’t have.
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• 	ohsnapback July 22nd, 2009 at 8:45 am
  I and a few others have some detractors, but the hard core numbers prove Ford, sans bankruptcy, is a money losing phenom, in an increasingly worsening position, contrary to recent media portrayals. Their situation is quickening into a death march. This is a case that boggles the mind in terms of how much perception and reality can diverge. Pull up their EBIDTA.
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