By on September 7, 2009

Get the latest TTAC e-Newsletter!

Recommended

51 Comments on “What’s Wrong With This Picture: Like Nothing Else Edition...”


  • avatar
    zerofoo

    Ex-Chrysler franchisees are going into a new line of work?

    -ted

  • avatar
    GS650G

    Not a thing as far as I’m concerned.

  • avatar
    WaftableTorque

    A Hummer dealership, guns, soon-to-be Chinese ownership…nah, I don’t see anything wrong.

  • avatar
    nearprairie

    Looks like a wall in every dealership in Cass Co., MO.

  • avatar
    Dick

    Absolutely nothing.

  • avatar
    Lug Nuts

    Ah! A wall of AR-15s and pump shotguns. Truly a thing of beauty. Only problem is that AR-15s are in such high demand nowadays that you will never see that many in one place, never mind untouched on a wall without dozens of people ogling them.

  • avatar
    twotone

    Looks like the F&I manager’s office at a high-pressure car dealership.

    Twotone

  • avatar
    Hank

    What’s wrong? That these are the only models on that showroom floor that will sell. No wait, that’s what’s right.

  • avatar
    matt

    Like Dick, I see absolutely nothing wrong with the picture. :-)

  • avatar
    TonyJZX

    is that in china?

    because some of those weapons are quite expensive and hard to get in the US if they were real

    FN P90

    H&K UMP

    numerous variants of the AR15

    they probably airsoft in some asian country

  • avatar
    golden2husky

    I could be mean and say you are trolling to start a 2nd amendment comment war, but you wouldn’t break your own rules…

  • avatar
    slateslate

    lol, flame war baiting didn’t work today.

    So i’ll start.

    guns kill.
    no, people kill.
    you’re a nazi.
    no, you’re a commie.
    i love chuck norris.
    so, do i.
    let’s hug.
    ok.

  • avatar
    mpresley

    You forgot the address:

    I-64 at Boone’s Crossing, Chesterfield, Missouri.

    This puts new meaning in the old Hummer dealer, Jim Lynch’s statement: Our pricing on new and used Hummers is extremely aggressive.

    I believe him. Stack ’em high and watch ’em fly; Stack ’em deep and sell ’em cheap.

  • avatar
    Robstar

    What is a wall full of guns doing in a car dealership?

    I wouldn’t find a shelf full of nintendo cartridges out on display in restaurant…

  • avatar
    PeteMoran

    The apogee of American “Culture”; Guns and Hummer.

  • avatar

    Ahhhh, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with this picture. Wait, the only thing wrong is that it wasn’t taken at my house.

  • avatar
    tscurt

    It’s an old white guy’s wet (maybe dry) dream.

  • avatar
    mach1

    Looks like the “bargain wall” at the gun shop next to the Istanbul Hilton.

  • avatar
    philipwitak

    no direct reference/relationship to cars that i can see – so it must have something to do with ‘truth.’

    apparently, it’s an homage to hand-fired instruments of human death and destruction. i had always hoped that that sort of thing only appealed to the juvenile mind that tends to celebrate violence.

    guess i was wrong.

  • avatar

    No that is not in China. There is no right to buy arms in China. No one there but high level police forces have guns.

    I lived in China and I’ve never felt safer on the streets at night then living there.

    I think what’s wrong is selling guns next to car parts but in ever-increasing portions of America, there is nothing to do but shoot guns. I just came back from Sunset Hills in fact.

  • avatar
    holydonut

    Too bad they aren’t selling a 30 cal mount option for your H2.

    Oh wait that’s in the back of the store? Sweet.

    Actually, I made up the part about the 30 cal… read the DetNews article here

  • avatar
    VerbalKint

    I’m not standing there with my wallet open.

  • avatar
    zaitcev

    That semi-auto P90 with 16″ barrell is an abomination brought to you by your friendly fascists in Washington, D.C.

  • avatar
    Detroit-Iron

    It’s an old white guy’s wet (maybe dry) dream.

    Crass: Check
    Racist: Check
    Ageist: Check

    That’s not a flame?

  • avatar
    DrivnEZ

    WHAT’S WRONG? It’s obvious…

    They’re hanging on a stealership wall, rather than being used at a range.

    DEZ

  • avatar
    golden2husky

    The apogee of American “Culture”; Guns and Hummer.…

    Nadir?

  • avatar

    The weapons aren’t stored IAW AR 190-11, Physical Security of Arms, Ammunition and Explosives.

  • avatar
    Mjolnir

    Looks like several nice gun stores in Southeastern Michigan, actually. Nothing “wrong” with that. I think the original poster’s question is due to the fact that this gun store was once a thriving car dealership. From THAT perspective there is a helluva lot wrong with the picture.

    When I left Ford I wrote a 9 page document and distributed it widely. I then stated that the Auto Industry was an industry of National Security and should be treated as such. I’m not sure how many “got it”. Well, when the people feel as though there is little national security they will do what they can to define and protect their own. Witness firearm sales: 1,000,000 weapons sold in the month of August ’09 alone:

    http://www.ammoland.com/2009/09/04/1…merican-homes/

    Washington, DC — (AmmoLand.com) – Data released by the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) reported 1,074,757 checks in August 2009, a 12.3 percent increase from the 956,872 reported in August 2008.

    So far that is roughly 9,076,205 gun bought this year! The total is probably more as NICS background checks may cover the purchase of more than one gun at a time.

    This latest jump in background checks show that Americans are solidly in-favor of keeping firearms in the hands of law abiding citizens and clearly shows that proponents claiming the USA wants more gun control are blatantly wrong.

    Gun Owners Say No to Gun Conrtol with their Wallets

    The increased trend of Americans buying firearms at a record pace was once thought to be a one time fluke caused by fears of the new Obama administration expressed lust for more gun control. But now 10 months in and the wrongly named “fear buying” has now become the norm as law abiding US citizen exercise their constitutional right to keep and bear firearms by the millions every month with no sign of slowing down.

    The bulk of the buying has been concentrated on the following types of guns or calibers:

    Semi Auto Handguns
    Revolvers
    AR-15s and all variants of the “Black Rifle”

    1.17 Guns for Each Person

    Conservative estimates of legally owned guns in the USA put the number at 355,029,250 million guns in the USA. That is 1.17 guns for everyone in the USA and if you listen to the liberal press they are all assault weapons. God bless anyone who tries to invade the USA…

    So while this is a boon to the Firearm Industry it shows an underlying concern with the US public that has been neglected for far too long.

    NAFTA, GATT, WTO, FTAA, CAFTA and the unbelievable NAU have destroyed the US industrial base and purchasing firearms will NOT bring it back. So, yes, I see a lot WRONG in the photo.

  • avatar
    lutonmoore

    I don’t know what this has to do with automobiles. But anybody who wants to buy guns is fine by me. God must like guns, ’cause he’s sure making a lot of them possible! (Or maybe it’s the New Messiah-I can’t wait for the Blast-Back on this…)

  • avatar
    Jeff Puthuff

    I see a lot of truth about cars in this photo.

    A HUMMER dealership isn’t going to pay the bills anymore. Besides, when your domain name is gunsandhummers.com, what are you supposed to do?

    It appears to me that Jim Lynch is a very clever capitalist.

  • avatar
    Dekard BR26354

    I don’t see anything wrong.

  • avatar
    FreedMike

    If you want a male enhancement product, try Extenze. It won’t work any better than a Hummer or some ridiculous assault weapon, but it’ll be a helluva lot cheaper.

  • avatar
    FreedMike

    Conservative estimates of legally owned guns in the USA put the number at 355,029,250 million guns in the USA. That is 1.17 guns for everyone in the USA and if you listen to the liberal press they are all assault weapons. God bless anyone who tries to invade the USA…

    Yeah, I guess the Navy, Air Force, Army and Marines, plus those 10,000 pesky nukes aren’t enough to keep the hordes off our borders…ROFLOL.

    The whole “rebel army fights off modern army with hunting rifles and handguns” fantasy – a product of multiple viewings of “Red Dawn” and excessive consumption of Red Bull – is complete bull. That’s NOT how those wars look. If you want to see how it DOES look, check out what happened to Al-Qaida in Iraq.

    How did that work out for them?

    I don’t own guns, and have no desire to do so, but I have no quibble with those who disagree with me…as long as they’re honest about why they own guns.

    Honesty: “You know, I don’t need a gun in 2009 America, but I like them. I like having them, I like shooting them. ” To this person, I say: Vaya con Dios, partner…just make sure they’re put away safely when you’re done.

    BS: “I need a gun for self defense because someone might invade our country.” OR: “I need a gun because I might be the first person in 18 years in my locality to suffer a home invasion.” Or, my favorite (an actual quote from one of my neighbors): “I don’t feel safe walking from the parking lot to Nordstrom unless I’m strapped.” To this person, I say: “Are you POSITIVE your health plan doesn’t cover psychotherapy?”

    It’s stuff like the latter that those of us who have not embraced “Happiness is a Warm Gun” as a personal mantra shake our heads at. There’s a big difference between enjoying a gun and abject paranoia.

  • avatar

    “But now 10 months in and the wrongly named “fear buying” has now become the norm as law abiding US citizen exercise their constitutional right to keep and bear firearms by the millions every month with no sign of slowing down.”

    I’ve never understood how Fear Buying changes anything.

    ITS THE US GOVERNMENT you’d be going up against. The same US government that incinerated those people at Waco Texas. The same US Government that wages endless wars GLOBALLY. The same US government that’s sent in the national guard to stop lawlessness during social breakdown.

    YOU CAN’T WIN AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT.

    They’ll send in soldiers who don’t give a fuck about you if you make em. You can’t beat no soldier with an M16 using a damn AR-15. You can’t beat a fully automatic rifle armed soldier with any over the counter gun.

    This is a ploy to get people spending money they don’t have on guns they don’t need.

  • avatar
    mikey

    I see nothing at all wrong. Of course its not a Canadian photo,just the criminals have guns in our peace loving socialist utopia.

  • avatar
    rpn453

    mikey,
    Are you calling me a criminal? Well, maybe you’re right; I haven’t been known to strictly obey our laws. However, all my firearms have been legally acquired.

  • avatar
    texmln

    No AMMO in sight, is what’s wrong!

  • avatar
    holydonut

    Re: Texmln

    No AMMO in sight, is what’s wrong!

    Don’t worry, they got you covered… Although I agree a PS90 with a 10 round clip is just sad.

    click me

    click me as well

  • avatar
    mkirk

    “They’ll send in soldiers who don’t give a fuck about you if you make em. You can’t beat no soldier with an M16 using a damn AR-15. You can’t beat a fully automatic rifle armed soldier with any over the counter gun.”

    So the Soldiers of the US Army are just a bunch of mindless thugs who would roll over the populace if so ordered?

    Let me tell you something…This Soldier loves his country. I love my country and it’s citizens, even those with whom I don’t agree with. The day I am ordered to do something like you describe is the last day I would call myself a Soldier. I am far from alone in this among the ranks.

    And by the way, the M-16 (or M-4 as a soldier is most likely to be carrying) is a semi auto with a 3 round burst capability in its’ modern iteration. No full auto as it is pretty well useless on a weapon the size of the M-16. As such it is not all that different than an AR-15. Any soldier who can shoot worth a damn is going to be firing on semi anyway…one shot one kill.

    Of course there is that pesky M-203 40mm grenade launcher that my army issue M4 has, but my AR lacks…but I digress.

  • avatar
    holydonut

    mkirk – don’t forget the USA also has a large number of people who play enough Call of Duty and Halo that, when necessary, can translate their gamin’ skills to killin’ skills when the USA is invaded.

  • avatar
    HEATHROI

    Let me tell you something…This Soldier loves his country. I love my country and it’s citizens, even those with whom I don’t agree with. The day I am ordered to do something like you describe is the last day I would call myself a Soldier. I am far from alone in this among the ranks.

    exactly the answer we were looking for, mkirk. hopefully you manage to get home sooner rather than later and in one piece.

    don’t forget the USA also has a large number of people who play enough Call of Duty and Halo that, when necessary, can translate their gamin’ skills to killin’ skills when the USA is invaded.

    They just need a USB port for their controller.

    “I don’t feel safe walking from the parking lot to Nordstrom unless I’m strapped.”

    (imitating John Stewart’s imitation of George Bush)”See, there are people…women, with white coats, maybe concealing suicide vests… standing..lurking, sticking cards with a smell on them, like jet fuel..looking to render you unconscious or knock you out…probably both so they can steal your wallet…Dick told me about this…heheheheh”

  • avatar
    FreedMike

    HEATHROI :
    September 7th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    (imitating John Stewart’s imitation of George Bush)”See, there are people…women, with white coats, maybe concealing suicide vests… standing..lurking, sticking cards with a smell on them, like jet fuel..looking to render you unconscious or knock you out…probably both so they can steal your wallet…Dick told me about this…heheheheh”

    Very nice…seriously, I just don’t get this whole “I need a gun” silliness. Most people who feel this way are affluent folks who live in suburbs like the one I live in – the county actually has the lowest proportion of poor people in the whole country – or the town (Chesterfield, MO) the Hummer dealership in this story is located in.

    I mean, look up the crime stats in Chesterfield – I happen to know them because I grew up there. What are your chances of “needing to defend yourself” with an assault rifle there? Frankly, the most serious crime you’re likely to face there is the Merry Maids ripping you off.

    They do give me a laugh, though…

  • avatar
    441Zuke

    i live right by this dealership, they built it about 3 years ago right at the tail of the hummer craze. I feel bad for them and the bentley, ferrai and lambo dealer across the street. I wonder if they have a range. or will have a buy a hummer get a gun promotion

  • avatar
    pista

    If we’re talking about trimming the American population, guns will do it better than even the most poorly driven Hummer.

    Nothing wrong with this picture at all?

  • avatar
    geeber

    FreedMike: “I need a gun because I might be the first person in 18 years in my locality to suffer a home invasion.” Or, my favorite (an actual quote from one of my neighbors): “I don’t feel safe walking from the parking lot to Nordstrom unless I’m strapped.” To this person, I say: “Are you POSITIVE your health plan doesn’t cover psychotherapy?”

    Do yourself a favor – google “Clayton Cramer” and his self-defense blog, and see how “unnecessary” guns really are.

  • avatar
    psarhjinian

    So the Soldiers of the US Army are just a bunch of mindless thugs who would roll over the populace if so ordered?

    The guys driving the tanks in Tienanmen two decades ago loved their country, too. They’d just been told that the square was full of “reviolutionary, unpatriotic subversives”.

    You’d be amazed what propaganda can convince people to do. I’m just a rookie, but phrases like “domestic terrorist” and “un-American” can go a long way, especially in military culture, where you have people who are specifically trained to obey orders.

    I don’t mean to disrespect the front-line soldiers, but to imply that they’re human, and are just as subject to manipulation as anyone else would be, if not moreso by virtue of their job. The idea that maintaining arms against a modern government would get you anything other than the label of “domestic terrorist” and a very short lifespan is self-delusion bordering on paranoia.

  • avatar
    HEATHROI

    The guys driving the tanks in Tienanmen two decades ago loved their country, too. They’d just been told that the square was full of “reviolutionary, unpatriotic subversives”.

    surprizingly enough the people protesting in Tiananmen were not pushing for Democracy as such, they were more annoyed about benefit cuts and worker and industrial protections removed in the move to a market based economy. What really pissed the students off was that scholarship students from foreign countries especially Africa kept theirs while being more successful with Chinese girls.

    however one wonders why they need a USNORTHCOM though.

  • avatar
    FreedMike

    geeber :
    September 8th, 2009 at 10:07 am

    FreedMike: “I need a gun because I might be the first person in 18 years in my locality to suffer a home invasion.” Or, my favorite (an actual quote from one of my neighbors): “I don’t feel safe walking from the parking lot to Nordstrom unless I’m strapped.” To this person, I say: “Are you POSITIVE your health plan doesn’t cover psychotherapy?”

    Do yourself a favor – google “Clayton Cramer” and his self-defense blog, and see how “unnecessary” guns really are.

    Whatever. I’m sure this guy is going to provide all kinds of anecdotal “evidence” (read: a clip from some newspaper or TV station about how some guy fought off a home intruder because he was armed). But here’s some hard evidence of your real chances of getting into a situation – i.e., rape, murder, or robbery – that you’d need a gun to fight your way out of, in the kind of neighborhood this car dealer’s in.

    http://www.hellochesterfield.com/crime.cfm

    In that city in 2005, there was one murder, one rape, six robberies and 32 assaults. The city had a population of 47,984.

    Therefore, your chances of being murdered or raped are about 1 in 48,000. Your chances of being robbed are about 1 in 8,000. Your chances of being burglarized are about about 1 in 1,500.

    By comparison, the odds of dying in a plane crash are about 1 in 20,000.

    And these types of stats are typical of affluent suburban cities – the places most likely to have citizens who need to feel armed to be safe.

  • avatar
    newt

    FreedMike

    So, just because it doesn’t happen, you don’t think people should have the option to defend themselves? How many times are guns used defensively per year? Lowest number (NCVS) is almost 100,000. Highest is 2+ million, although that wasn’t a great study, so it’s probably somewhere between 100,000 and a million.

    Have YOU ever been attacked? Do you know anything about “fighting your way out?”
    Without a firearm?

    How often do LEGAL gun owners and CHL/CCW permit holders actually commit crimes? (Check Florida and Texas for studies on these). It’s low.

    Finally, do you rely on the police for protection? Can you call them fast enough? Do they legally have to protect you (hint: no. Castle Rock v Gonzales). What happens when you live in a place like Oregon (my home), where there are violence problems in the wilderness (http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/03/us.marijuana.cartels/)? Who is going to take care of you there?
    I spoke with a cop/armorer in Corvallis OR. It’s a wealthy city PD of about 51,000. He told me they have 4 guys on duty for 50,000 people and 13.8 square miles. Does that cover it? Maybe you should ask Brooke Wilberger. I guess you don’t think people in places like Corvallis should be able to defend themselves against criminals (or animals, we have dangerous ones here).

    And yes, I’ve been violently attacked. My buddy almost died on the spot from loss of blood during an incident where we were both mugged. I’m also a certified law enforcement armorer and have extensive formal training in safety, handling, tactics, and armorers work.

  • avatar
    geeber

    FreedMike: Whatever. I’m sure this guy is going to provide all kinds of anecdotal “evidence” (read: a clip from some newspaper or TV station about how some guy fought off a home intruder because he was armed).

    Considering how many he regularly collects and posts, I’d say his site constitutes more than anecdotal evidence. And given that he only lists news stories, not rumors or what his uncle’s favorite cousin’s aunt said, I’d say that it constitutes more than an anecdote.

    FreedMike: But here’s some hard evidence of your real chances of getting into a situation – i.e., rape, murder, or robbery – that you’d need a gun to fight your way out of, in the kind of neighborhood this car dealer’s in.

    Just because you feel safe doesn’t mean that others share the same feelings. Please note that no one is forcing you to carry a gun if you don’t want to do so.

    And most people I know venture far from their home town or city on a regular basis.

  • avatar
    skygreenleopard

    geeber: While I agree with your sentiment, I think what FreedMike is railing against is “fear buying” – insisting that some lib president is going to take your gun away – and buying assault rifle ammo in response. It’s not the gun-owning people have that FreedMike has a problem with. I definitely don’t. What I’m more scared of is that hundreds of thousands of gun owners stockpile ammo on command whenever a democrat’s in charge, as if someone’s going to charge in a take away your kids and your rifles. It’s a little scary to see it happen en masse, as if the Russian Reds were really going to stomp into our yards.

    Like I said, no offense meant to lawful and respectable gun owners. I hunt and trap shoot with my Browning that my grandpa bought me and I love it. I do, however, agree with FreedMike that if someone’s paranoid enough about Obama to stockpile some ARs in his home and worry about invasions – or at least if someone’s dumb enough to use this as a REASON to own a gun – I probably don’t trust him with his guns. I’ll keep my kids away from that moron.

Read all comments

Recent Comments

  • Lou_BC: @Carlson Fan – My ’68 has 2.75:1 rear end. It buries the speedo needle. It came stock with the...
  • theflyersfan: Inside the Chicago Loop and up Lakeshore Drive rivals any great city in the world. The beauty of the...
  • A Scientist: When I was a teenager in the mid 90’s you could have one of these rolling s-boxes for a case of...
  • Mike Beranek: You should expand your knowledge base, clearly it’s insufficient. The race isn’t in...
  • Mike Beranek: ^^THIS^^ Chicago is FOX’s whipping boy because it makes Illinois a progressive bastion in the...

New Car Research

Get a Free Dealer Quote

Who We Are

  • Adam Tonge
  • Bozi Tatarevic
  • Corey Lewis
  • Jo Borras
  • Mark Baruth
  • Ronnie Schreiber