And the beat goes on: General Motors has issued five new recalls for 2.99 million vehicles, bringing the number of affected GM products to a total of 13 million worldwide since late February of this year.
The Detroit News reports the bulk of the new recalls is composed of 2.7 million units whose tail lamps could also disable the cruise control, electronic-stability control and panic-braking assist. In addition:
- 111,000 2005 – 2007 Chevrolet Corvettes: loss of low-beams
- 140,000 2014 Chevrolet Malibus: hydraulic-brake booster malfunction
- 19,225 2013 – 2014 Cadillac CTS: windshield wiper failure
- 477 2014 Chevrolet Silverado, Tahoe and GMC Sierra: tie-rod defect linked to loss of steering control
GM Vice President of Global Vehicle Safety Jeff Boyer stated the latest recalls were “examples of two ways” the automaker is doubling-down its focus on customer safety going forward with the design and production of its vehicles worldwide:
We have redoubled our efforts to expedite and resolve current reviews in process and also have identified and analyzed recent vehicle issues which require action. These are examples of our focus to surface issues quickly and promptly take necessary actions in the best interest of our customers.
Though the moves to find and fix as many issues as possible have shown it is turning a new leaf toward safer vehicles, GM could see its efforts all for naught as far as perception is concerned, according to Ervin Hill Strategy President Dan Hill. He says recalls overall are signs of lapses in product quality:
That’s going to play into the narrative that the “New GM” is just like the “Old GM.” I think they do have a real reputation crisis on their hands in terms of quality.
Hill adds GM will have to prove to people the recalls are being issued in the best interest of their customer base, and not just because it has perceived issues with quality overall. The automaker lost $1.3 billion in Q1 2014 from recall efforts, and expects to take a $200 million hit in Q2 2014 earnings thus far.
Hate to say this [ though not really ] but … errr ….
Told You So !!! Over 30 days ago in fact . And now I’m telling you again . Theres even more waiting in the wings to come . With a whole raft of other ills about to be exposed about GM in general [ pun intended ] as well .
Because of course … GM is such a quality orientated company [ sarcasm definitely intended ]
Time to get Dr Tims formula out of the water coolers GM . Before it really does become too bloody goram late for the likes of you .
@ Volt 230 – If you read this . Pass on my condolences as well as my laughing my **s off to T Bejma if you would .
“Theres even more waiting in the wings to come.” Since you love to set everyone straight about all things, you’ve left out the apostrophe in “Theres”. Also, “to come” is redundant. I won’t belabor the point by mentioning your sentence fragments, other missing or misused punctuation marks, and your stylistic shortcomings, which are legion. You really should do better if you want keep the role of scold.
@ gtrsingr I don’t agree with everything you say but keep saying it as loud and bombastic (if that is not redundant)) as you like.
We have become way too sensitive with people we do not agree with.
Rich, I think you may have missed the point. It’s not gtrslngr’s opinions that are at issue. Rather, it’s the way he expresses them. Typically, he includes a variety of insulting barbs and putdowns. I just wanted to give him a tiny bit of his own medicine, though I have little confidence that it will cure his particular disorder. That said, I have to concede that old gtrslngr can, at times, be pretty entertaining.
OK, my fault.
GM should issue a recall on the XTS because it doesn’t offer an upgrade to the LSA, Recaro seat sand 14″ Brembo brakes.
GM should issue a general [ pun intended ] recall on everything they’ve ever made over the last two decades … but especially for the all raging piles of crap Cadillacs masquerading on the streets and dealers lots as performance and/or luxury cars ever since the deluded idiots at GM decided Cadillac could in any way shape or form compete head to head with their German betters despite the fact that GM can’t give them away once the initial sales bump has bottomed out . And specifically for each and every [ falls and/or rattles itself apart before your very eyes ] V series … along with that dreaded visually impaired death trap known as the SRX
But hey . Be patient . They no doubt will before its all said and done
My aunt has an 09 SRX. Only problem she’s had was a dead HID lamp.
I have a 2005 CTS-V and never had a problem with it with almost 60,000 miles. That included track days at Roebling Road and Mid-Ohio road courses. It has been modified to have similar power-to-weight ratio of the 556 hp 2009 CTS-V and proves to be very reliable.
Thats…..a lotta vehicles. However, this post doesnt say which models have the evil demon taillights which disable panic brake assist, stablilty control and cruise control??
I think GM is trying to get ahead of the investigation so they have as few awkward questions as possible going forward. There are probably a dozen other potential recalls that are out there but just dont necessarily effect safety.
Again, I think that there isnt an automaker operating in this world that doesnt have a closet full of skeletons waiting for an investigation. The difference between GM and the others is only the spotlight in my opinion.
Everybody has a skeleton or two .. no doubt . The real difference being GMs skeletons could fill the state of Alaska from top to bottom at a depth of 12 feet or so with nary a void to be found . Whats bringing GM into the spotlight now is they no longer have the government protection/censorship protecting them from the spotlight being shoved right in their face .
And to that I say seeing as how this is on my/our dime ; Its about goram time !!!
gtrslnger: I figure you should be happy as all get-out – another case of shooting fish in a barrel when you indulge in what appears to be your greatest joy in life: Slagging car manufacturers on the internet. Repeated, obnoxiously, often inaccurately, and definitely constant and loud. I assume you’re having a wonderful time.
It does have me somewhat curious, though. Are you this constant, loud and opinionated when your audience is face to face and within arm’s reach?
That’s some classic UAW talk. “Arms reach.” Nice.
The linked article says 2004-12 Chevrolet Malibu, 2004-07 Chevrolet Malibu Maxx, 2005-10 Pontiac G6 and 2007-10 Saturn Auras have the taillight issue.
I applaud TTAC for covering this even though it goes against their policy of not ordinarily covering recall stories. In this case I feel that the real story here is of a company that cannot get anything right; the more we hear about the “new” GM the harder it gets to distinguish them from the old one. In the long run this company is doomed.
The bright side is that if GM was sold to a Chinese outfit, at least no one would have to complain about a downgrade in quality since they’re already working to that standard.
“I think GM is trying to get ahead of the investigation so they have as few awkward questions as possible going forward.”
GM is already well behind, so at this juncture, GM is playing catchup and trying to avoid more monster fines in the future.
That, and it makes sense to get the bad news out of the way now. Push the recalls into this year’s financials, so that the next fiscal year (and stock price) can recover from the damage.
All the juice is gone from this story.
And how many of us would really have bought anything GM anyway?
I have, currently own one (’06 Solstice), and will continue to consider them in the future. Other than an absolutely POS 1979 Monza Kammback that I was rid of by the 1982 model year, I’ve had good luck with their products. And I got over the grudge on that car somewhere in the early 1990’s.
Given the number of anecdotes about spouses who insist on getting a Tahoe, perhaps more than you’d think ;-)
I recently purchased a 2014 Malibu. And yes, I do enjoy driving!
Gee “Kenmore”, you sound like my financial adviser. He didn’t specify a brand. He just said “don’t buy any more cars” period!
How are you supposed to do that after a lifetime of building them?
Maybe he just meant *new* cars :-D
Yeah he went on about depreciation, and,
something about caveat emptor, concerning used cars. And just because it’s shiny, and I want it, is not justification for me to buy it.
I guess he figures at the ripe old age of 29, and with a bunch of letters after his name, gives him license to lecture uneducated old auto workers, on the finer points of buyer restraint.
Oh well, I suppose that’s what I pay him for?
OMG, that’s funny. A soft-palmed, pencil neck kid telling *you* to caveat emptor used cars.
But the most important thing he doesn’t get is that if there’s still something that lights your fire about cars (or anything) after the decades of sweat, aches and drudgery of dealing for real in an industry… that thing is now a health issue; a life-extender.
Yeah, you can’t go all crazy with it, but boredom will kill a retired guy just like booze, smokes or face-stuffing. Because they’re what you do when you’re bored.
“caveat emptor used cars.”
Caveat emptor on NEW cars, I’ll run old platforms into the ground with ease and low cost.
“Yeah, you can’t go all crazy with it, but boredom will kill a retired guy just like booze, smokes or face-stuffing. Because they’re what you do when you’re bored.”
Thanks for describing what appears to be the not-too-far future in my case; maybe I’ll buy a mid 70’s Super Beetle and convert it to run on old-man farts.
“I’ll buy a mid 70′s Super Beetle”
I’ve come to value your existence so please don’t do that. Get something with brakes and an engine. I had a ’73.
As to the fuel you mention, might I suggest that Sir consider trying for an evening repast my own concoction I’ve named “Enduring Rumble”?
Use the largest soup terrine available and completely fill with equal parts refried beans, mashed potatoes and a freezer bag of cheesy broccoli & cauliflower. Season to taste and consume while surfing the interwebs.
You can drive all the next day with no range anxiety. Except possibly for bathrooms.
raises hand sheepishly
Meanwhile the 2011 Volt I traded in was the most reliable compact car after 3 years:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/02/12/used-cars-less-dependable-jdpower/5403139/
Hope someone fixed the dent in its hood and gave it a good home..
Interesting article. It looks like people that actually know about cars were right. They are getting less reliable as transmission ratio counts go up and displacement is replaced with forced induction. Duh.
As for the 2011 Volt being one of the three most reliable compacts; how is it a compact? Isn’t there an interior volume measurement? There’s more room in a Geo Storm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Volt
Plenty of room for me, though I would like more headroom. It might be worth a trip to the BMW dealer if/when they have an i3 for me to sit in though, maybe in another year.
I really wanted a Volt, but it’s a very complex (though well-engineered) machine that, in the long-term, could become a nightmare. An example are the 3 cooling systems (engine, battery, controller). Will there be anyone at a Chevy dealer (or anywhere else) that could fix one of those in say, 2024?
That’s hardly a feat that a new car didn’t have problems in its first 3 years. It’s clear you have an incredibly low bar for car quality.
You should feel lucky the Volt didn’t burn your house down. I guess that’s also an achievement worth mentioning.
140,000 2014 Malibus? I’m surprised GM has churned out even half as many of that turkey.
Why? It’s the middle of May 2014. 2014 production for most makes and models will be winding down in 4 to 6 weeks, 2014 production would have started last year in the summer. The 2015 models f just about any make/model will be on lots in August/September – and the beat goes on.
Berkshire Hathaway just sold a quarter of its stake in GM:
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140515/AUTO0103/305150132/Buffett-company-Soros-sell-GM-shares
Buffet and his execs are not fools. GM as a company has peaked, and its product peaked sometime around the bailout, IMO. Screwing up the Corvette in any way is very telling.
BTW, brake boosters on a Daeworolet Malibu, are you fricking serious? My Audi 100 had a “bomb” and it too was probably unnecessary for a 130ish hp NA 5-cyl but it was a “luxury car” so I could understand the reasoning. But a Malibu? This is the automotive equivalent of a disposable toothpick, and you put high priced ready-to-break stuff in it? Hello McFly…
They screwed the Corvette up? I’m not a Corvette guy, so maybe I’m missing something, but the C7 seems to be very good. Z06 has an automatic and all now, but really who cares besides the editors here?
Screwed up in terms of needing recalled, MY05-07 IIRC.
“111,889 previous generation Chevrolet Corvettes for loss of low-beam head lamps”
http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/news.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2014/May/0514-five-recalls.html
Oh ok. I don’t know if that qualifies as screwing it up. I have no idea if the Corvette has more problems or recalls than the average car. If they just issued that recall, without the 2.8+ million other cars, it wouldn’t get that much press.
I’ve never heard of a formal recall for a Corvette. Not to say its never happened, but if it has, I imagine its been a long time. Corvette is one of the better kept products of the company, I’d argue its a bell-weather. Ford’s is probably the F-150.
@28: Corvette sales should post annual sales exceeding those for the almost all five preceeding year…by June this year. Doesn’t look like a ruined Corvette to me.
http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2011/01/chevrolet-corvette-sales-figures.html?m=1
mcs, Berkshire Hathaway is expanding into Real Estate on a grand scale, and they are eating small companies like that of my wife’s family, alive.
That’s the big motivator for us to sell as many of our excess rental properties as we can before the end of 2014.
The malibu recall is only for 2.5L models as it is because of a software calibration in regards to the stop start feature which was found to sometimes trick the Brake controller to show the vehicle was turned off still after restarting the engine.
Ill give them a pass on this one considering it’s the first year for this setup.
Tahoe- Mechanics have been complaining about this for quite sometime sadly so no excuse for that one. My Service Manager inspected every Tahoe that came in for service before this and if it was deemed premature wear he would cover the cost to replace the tie-rod
On a side note why no mention on the site of the 700,000 Ford Recall or the 1.8 Million Toyota Recall
As vehicles become more, and more complex, expect more, and more recalls.
I think most people, as in buyers, would expect that. But when it comes to GM and its long and rich history of denial, obfuscation, misdirection and misinformation, this doesn’t sit well with most people, regardless of what brand they actually buy.
Faulty ignition switches that GM knew about for more than a decade leads most people to wonder, what else does GM know about today but is suppressing? This newest recall only confirms their worst fears.
Then again, when a buyer commits to buying a brand, any brand, they deserve exactly what they get, good bad or indifferent.
The difference with GM has been, for decades, that the fun never stops and every year brings a new surprise. Some good. Some not so good.
All that is fine, unless one of those surprises results in the death of a loved one.
HDC: see any difference?
” “Rather than promptly disclosing and correcting safety issues about which they were aware, Toyota made misleading public statements to consumers and gave inaccurate facts to Members of Congress,” said Attorney General Eric Holder. “When car owners get behind the wheel, they have a right to expect that their vehicle is safe. If any part of the automobile turns out to have safety issues, the car company has a duty to be upfront about them, to fix them quickly, and to immediately tell the truth about the problem and its scope. Toyota violated that basic compact. Other car companies should not repeat Toyota’s mistake: a recall may damage a company’s reputation, but deceiving your customers makes that damage far more lasting.”
http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2014/March/14-ag-286.html
NormSV650, ultimately, the Toyota cars were proven to be safe. So your argument is moot.
Toyota was basically found guilty and had to prove itself innocent with the help of NASA and university researchers.
That happened.
As an aside, though, I also believe that Toyota looked at the whole thing as just a toll to pay along the road of doing business in bankrupt America, and did just that.
Toyota chalked it up to the cost of doing business in bankrupt America where its national debt is greater than its entire GDP. Toyota made allowances for that and ultimately was proven right: Toyota products ARE safe.
Safer than GM products, for sure.
All Toyota did was pass on the cost of the toll they paid, to their customers, who gladly picked it up when they bought their new Toyota product.
When you’re the biggest and the best automaker on the planet you are also the biggest target.
Most people understand that and keep buying Toyota products because of that.
HDC; I don’t think NASA or any other agencies quoted by Toyota went deep enough. Hence the ECU update recall update this past spring for newer Toyota models. There just isn’t enough fail safes in their OS but seemed to be given a pass to fix it while people lives are jeopardized.
http://www.safetyresearch.net/2013/11/07/toyota-unintended-acceleration-and-the-big-bowl-of-spaghetti-code/
Toyota are not been safe nor have they been for years;
http://m.wardsauto.com/sales-amp-marketing/buick-beats-volvo-used-car-safety-ranking
NormSV650, sorry about the delayed response. I’ve been away.
I bought two Toyota products since 2008 and currently still own those same two Toyota products.
We have had an excellent ownership experience with both of them and it is highly likely I will buy a third Toyota product at the end of this year when we trade my wife’s 2012 Grand Cherokee for a 2015 Sequoia.
People vote with their feet. If Toyota was such a bad product, I doubt so many people would be repeat buyers, with new ones entering the fold daily.
I drove GM for decades, but no more. I voted with my feet.
Today’s American-made Toyota products are not as good as the Toyota products made in Japan and imported to the US. I know that.
That said, American-made Toyota products are no better and no worse than those from Ford or GM because they all use the same suppliers. And herein lies the problem!
But I’d rather drive a Toyota product than a GM product because with GM I could get killed waiting for them to issue a recall, while with Toyota we can be assured that Toyota will do the right thing for their customers even if the recalls are for trumped up charges like SUA, later to be proven false.
Biggest automaker? Biggest target. Toyota!
It’s the new normal, and not just for GM. This is the fallout from Toyota’s unintended acceleration fiasco and GM’s ignition switches, and the way our illustrious self-serving public servants have seized upon automobile accidents as a way to grandstand. Dealers will love this, it’s a great way to get the cars back into the dealerships and sell more service. All the manufacturers need to do is pad the MSRP for 2 or 3 recalls, and it’s a win-win! GM is smart for at least trying to get ahead of the game. I doubt they are the worst offender.
Every manufacturer will follow suit, and as for skeletons, my guess is there are a few beauties yet to be ‘discovered’. Wait and see.
Not that I’m claiming the imported makes are perfect…but this is why I’d never buy an American car. Honda and Toyota issue a major recall every once in a while, and the domestic industry loves to pull this crap every third week. They engineer the cars poorly in the first place, then stay as quiet as possible about the problems. The Japanese design them much better in the first place and are then slightly less quiet when the problems happen. It’s lose-lose for us consumers…but if you’re going to gamble your family’s lives on one methodology or the other (as you do every time you leave the driveway), I know which I’d choose.
Do you recall the 5 speed auto that Honda used in the early 2000s for 5 years straight? The one where they lost a class action lawsuit and had to extend the transmission warranty to 93 months or 110K miles.
Face it, all of the automakers gamble that the parts they use will make it to the end of the warranty simply because the buying public will only pay so much for a car. In the 90s Toyota and Honda made some very simple reliable cars, but these days they aren’t very simple anymore and the cost of developing a vehicle, speccing the parts, prototyping and getting a car certified for use on the road is only going up as we integrate more and more technology into them.
If you think the Japanese car companies are angels think again:
“Under the settlement with the Department of Justice announced today, Toyota is banged for $1.2 billion, and prosecution for committing one count of wire fraud is deferred for three years, for the lies it told about the floor mat entrapment and sticky pedal recalls. According to Toyota’s Statement of Facts, the automaker sought to limit its floor mat recalls, even though the entrapment hazard affected other models, and resisted the sticky pedal recall, even though Toyota had addressed the problem in Europe.”
http://www.safetyresearch.net/2014/03/19/toyotas-billion-dollar-web/
Well, I have been in the buisness near 30 years now, and I can’t say at this point Hondas or Toyotas are any better engineered than most anything else. Some manufacturers have been known to have ‘secret’ campaigns to repair issues quietly before they become known, and some say that is what Toyota was trying to do with the unintended acceleration issue before it became widespread. I personally don’t think any of the Asian manufacturers have historically been all that transparent when it comes to these issues.
This is what happens when there is a massive rush to show us they’re the new GM. It wasn’t very long ago when they were building absolute junk Pontiacs, Buicks and Oldsmobiles. GM should stick with trucks and drop sedan production.
GM is still building junk today, albeit a much better junk than that of the years past.
If people choose to buy a GM product, they deserve whatever it is they get, good, bad or indifferent.
At least GM is issuing recalls! It wasn’t too long ago that GM would have mounted a full-on campaign of denial, misdirection, obfuscation and misinformation.
This is what the bailout and nationalization got us. I’d say fine GM to the tune of the $10B GM still owes the US taxpayers.
Sounds about right HDC. 10 billion, call it even, and no more government investigations, fines or recalls. If you are stupid enough to buy a GM car, you’re on your own. This is as it should be.
@ HDC & thelaine…So in your world ALL GM buyers are just plain stupid?
Your opinion and your entitled to it.
I happen to be proud GM owner, and a former employee. I suppose that makes me stupid?
Fair enough guys. I too have a right to judge.
mikey, I said if people choose to buy a GM product, knowing all this beforehand, they deserve anything and everything they get.
Keep in mind, I was a loyal GM fan (on the Olds side) for decades, until 2008, when I bought my first Japan-built Toyota product,
Made a believer out of me. But I am hesitant today about buying ANY vehicle of ANY brand made in America using American suppliers. (I’ll have to cross that bridge later this year.)
Personally, these days I would rather take a chance on a Toyota product, knowing full well Toyota will do the right thing in case of problems, than buy a GM product, knowing up front what water has already passed underneath that bridge.
A man has to be happy with what he decides to buy and if your choice is GM, who am I to disagree with you? I’m not paying for your ride.
“A man has to be happy with what he decides to buy and if your choice is GM, who am I to disagree with you? I’m not paying for your ride.”
HDC if you are truly an American you’ll drive all available cars in the segment you are shopping in and report your choice here.
HDC I think your American credentials are pretty well established.
@ HDC and thelaine….Yes, “thelaine” I do remember you and HDC.
The word “stupid” just kind of spun me the wrong way this morning.
I’m great believer in freedom of choice. Recently, one of my two toy cars had to go. Where I live Camaros, and Mustangs are good for 7 months of the year. It didn’t make sense keeping 2 cars garaged all winter.
Even people that I’m close to questioned my choice. The fire breathing, loaded 2SS 6 speed Camaro got traded in for a 4cyl Impala. I kept the 08 base model 6cyl auto Mustang convertible. It wasn’t a question of cash. I just plain like driving the Mustang better. The Mustang is noisy, rides rough, and the 4 litre V6 is crude, and a little short on power. To be honest the car itself, is kinda girly, and a little bit primitive.
I just love it, because it reminds of the cars I grew up with.
NormSV650, the choices for me later this year are abundantly clear. We’ll be trading my wife’s 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee for a new SUV, most likely a 2015 Sequoia 4X4.
Then, in 2015 or early 2016 I’ll be trading my 2011 Tundra 5.7 for another Tundra 5.7, this time a 4X4 with 4 doors.
We have to make use of the excellent resale value of both of these vehicles, at this stage of ownership and miles on the clock.
Both of these new vehicles will probably be our keepers since my wife and I are both 68 years old and will be driving considerably less than we do now.
If for some reason the Tundra will not be available with that magnificent 5.7 32-valve DOHC beast under the hood, my selection will be an F250 with the largest V8 gas motor I can buy.
@thelaine
Doesn’t sound very American decision in new cars to me. With all the choices available to HDC, I’d wouldn’t expect such a narrowly focused list of Toyota’s.
Norm, standing on your own two feet used to be an American value. Still is with some. Sucking from other people’s wallets would have been a source of shame. For most, it has lost all stigma.
Anyway, Toyota is just as American as GM, or should I say, GM is just as foreign as Toyota.
Your suggestion that people at least test drive a GM before making a decision is reasonable, but if you have been burned before, you know this does not help answer the important questions about reliability, dealership experience, and GM corporate attitude toward customers. Many people are perfectly justified in saying “no thanks.” It has nothing to do with being less of an American. The suggestion is quaint. I wish people were asking it during the bailout.
NormSV650, It’s all about what we each believe in. I drove GM for decades. Know better now.
You’re right though, with all the choices available to me, or anyone else, why not choose what you want from the company proven to be the best, and the largest, and the most customer-oriented, and one of the most heavily invested Japanese companies in America? Toyota!
In my case, why piddle around with an automaker that died and was bailed out at taxpayer expense? How many of those taxpayers were NOT GM fans?
I WAS a GM fan but do not believe in bailouts, handouts and nationalization.
What I do believe in is what we, the people, did with Chrysler, pimping it off to Fiat along with a bribe of $1.3B. Look at Fiatsler now!
When it comes to trucks, it’s Tundra first for me, and with Ford as a distant runner-up. No other choice.
SUVs? Sequoia first for me and really nothing else unless I step up to a Lexus (which I do not want to do because of the expense.)
To me, my options are cut and dried, and directly in line with my beliefs and loyalties.
Hell no Mikey, I never said that. You are a genius. You belong to a union that managed to snooker 10 billion dollars from taxpayers into your pension fund. My statement had nothing to do with you.
@thelaine…Were good! I’m no genius. I went looking for a job when I was 18, GM was there and the rest was history. The UAW and CAW were just part of the package.
I’m not sure of the what exactly transpired in the USA during the 08-10 period.
GM Canada did not go bankrupt. However without a “made in Canada” bailout. GM would have shut the doors, and gone home.
One of the stipulations from the Canadian governments, was that GM shore up the pension plan. Both plans! Hourly, and non union, salary plans. The governments had given GM a free ride, in allowing them to divert pension contributions into general funds. After all GM was “too big to fail”
Love it hate it..We in Canada have a very expensive social safety net.
Had Ontario and Ottawa allowed GM to go belly up. They would of put 3/4 of the retired workforce {union and no union} on welfare. To say nothing of the tens od thousands of job losses.
Our “social safety net” some call it a “Ponzi scheme” would have collapsed.
I think that’s what happens to pyramids when you remove the bottom layer of bricks.
You may not recall Mikey, but we have interacted before. I have strong opinions. I hate it when people personalize them and it goes into the gutter. I have nothing but respect for you based on your prior posts, many of which I remember well. I am very glad that you and especially your family came through it all in good shape.
Fine Mikey, as long as we’re being honest, let me confess that one of the cars that has gotten soundly trashed around here, the Chevy SS, is one of my dream cars…big time. I have some friends who drive them as work vehicles and have had the pleasure of thrashing the crap out of a couple of them. To me, they are the cat’s meow. Someday…
So there is your confession from an inveterate GM basher, my north of the border compadre
@highdesertcat
I agree they should be fined.
The amount I believe should hurt most all involved with GM. The government would have been well aware of these recalls coming up.
GM’s BoD, executives, shareholder, UAW, etc all should be hurt to the point some commonsense prevails.
This bull$hit of too big to fail also seems to be to big to challenge.
Make GM and any other manufacturer that hides information hurt.
I realize we are humans and errors occur, but covering up deficient and unsafe vehicles is a crime and a different situation.
It’s tantamount to lying.
BAFO, GM can afford to pay any fine. It is after all, original seed money from the US taxpayers, merely being returned to the Treasury after an extended vacay in the GM coffers.
But my concern is, what other problems lurk in GM products that GM knows about today but will not issue recalls for, for another ten years?